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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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vegster

vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,894
Baker lite said:
We will be fine, the sun will still shine, water will still run from the taps, food will be on the shelves of supermarkets, we are going to be the First Nation to step off the deck of a sinking ship,all will be good.Believe in yourself and your nation.
On our way.


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The first nation to step off the deck of a sinking ship to find that there is no lifeboat there!
 




Two Professors

Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
vegster said:
The first nation to step off the deck of a sinking ship to find that there is no lifeboat there!
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Javid has got them back from the EU.Will be here before the end of March.
 


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rippleman

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2011
4,574
The Large One said:
Whose truth?

The majority did not vote to leave the EU. That's the page one, unbendable truth, irrespective of any rules governing the referendum. Like the rest of decent society, we'll go with the evidence, not the corrupt spin.
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But that argument places you on very dodgy ground!

"The majority" did not vote for this Tory government. So do we get rid and then vote every week until we can get a government elected by "the majority"? I also think you will find that "the majority" did not vote for us to enter the common market in the first place.

If you are going to argue that no vote can never be binding unless more than 50% of the electorate vote for it then you will quickly find that nothing ever happens. The country would be hamstrung and moribund.

We have to maintain our democracy and that means abiding by the decision of the majority that put an X in the box. To try to factor in how those who chose not to vote might have voted is farcical.

Remain Votes + Those Not Voting = > Leave Votes :D But that's not how a democracy works is it?
 




Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
65,515
Beside the seaside, beside the sea
rippleman said:
But that argument places you on very dodgy ground!

"The majority" did not vote for this Tory government. So do we get rid and then vote every week until we can get a government elected by "the majority"? I also think you will find that "the majority" did not vote for us to enter the common market in the first place.

If you are going to argue that no vote can never be binding unless more than 50% of the electorate vote for it then you will quickly find that nothing ever happens. The country would be hamstrung and moribund.

We have to maintain our democracy and that means abiding by the decision of the majority that put an X in the box. To try to factor in how those who chose not to vote might have voted is farcical.

Remain Votes + Those Not Voting = > Leave Votes :D But that's not how a democracy works is it?
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A general election is different from a referendum because you do not vote for a party but the local candidate. It is often said that some voters will vote for anything with a red or blue rosette, but that is oversimplifying things.

A referendum can stipulate that the result has to be over 65% of the vote in favour or against, in the same way union votes are. Cameron made a huge mistake in not stipulating that in the Referendum Act 2015.
That same Act did say the referendum was advisory only. The government has then pushed everything through despite being in contempt of Parliament and defeated on several occasions.
 




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jasetheace

New member
Apr 13, 2011
712
Thunder Bolt said:
A general election is different from a referendum because you do not vote for a party but the local candidate. It is often said that some voters will vote for anything with a red or blue rosette, but that is oversimplifying things.

A referendum can stipulate that the result has to be over 65% of the vote in favour or against, in the same way union votes are. Cameron made a huge mistake in not stipulating that in the Referendum Act 2015.
That same Act did say the referendum was advisory only. The government has then pushed everything through despite being in contempt of Parliament and defeated on several occasions.
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It was a critical mistake not to add a "Margin Stipulation". 55/45 is all that is required.
 














Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

Banned
Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Thunder Bolt said:
A general election is different from a referendum because you do not vote for a party but the local candidate. It is often said that some voters will vote for anything with a red or blue rosette, but that is oversimplifying things.

A referendum can stipulate that the result has to be over 65% of the vote in favour or against, in the same way union votes are. Cameron made a huge mistake in not stipulating that in the Referendum Act 2015.
That same Act did say the referendum was advisory only. The government has then pushed everything through despite being in contempt of Parliament and defeated on several occasions.
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# desperate...……." it's your choice no one else's " get a grip
regards
DR
 


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cunning fergus

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2009
4,747
jasetheace said:
It was a critical mistake not to add a "Margin Stipulation". 55/45 is all that is required.
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Aside from tbe fact that referenda rarely work this way. When the welsh voted in a referendum for a welsh parliament the result for was a few thousand, 50.2 to 49.8 ish.

The french referendum on Masstricht was 51 for to 49 sgainst and is known as the “petit oui”. The french nation got the consequences of Masstricht.

Thats the rules kid, stop damping your pants and accept that you were on the losing side.
 






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fanseagull

New member
Dec 18, 2018
228
Two Professors said:
At least we don't hide behind yet another identity.Come on,be brave,admit who you normally post as.:smokin:
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Sorry 2p
You lost all credibility when you expressed denial that people are about to lose jobs over looming Brexit.... and of course you sneered at the suggestion that the matter has already become violent in certain quarters, conveniently forgetting that one MP has already been murdered over this.
 








Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
65,515
Beside the seaside, beside the sea
cunning fergus said:
Aside from tbe fact that referenda rarely work this way. When the welsh voted in a referendum for a welsh parliament the result for was a few thousand, 50.2 to 49.8 ish.

The french referendum on Masstricht was 51 for to 49 sgainst and is known as the “petit oui”. The french nation got the consequences of Masstricht.

Thats the rules kid, stop damping your pants and accept that you were on the losing side.
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Aside from the corrupt money and cover up stopping investigations of Aaron Banks. It will all come out in the wash eventually.
 




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