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What do you think the deal was for Wilson?



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SockMonster

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Oct 12, 2007
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Was chatting with mates after the game and we were wondering what kind of deal we would have had to make to get him considering so many clubs were after him? (Perhaps this is fixtures in which case apologies). Did we have to pay a lump sum? What percentage of wages? Do they have recall rights? That kind of thing.....
I realise no-one will know for certain but what do we reckon? Personally I think we might have had to shell out quite a bit to get him.
 




Barham's tash

Barham's tash

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Jun 8, 2013
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Was considering the same thing and would assume that it was a sizeable loan fee - say maybe £1m or so plus his wages of maybe £8k per week. Quite an investment
 


GT49er

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As a 19 year old (OK, not for much longer, I admit) I don't think his wages at Old Trafford would be that astronomical (in footballers' terms). Don't know what percentage we'd pay.
Suspect MU (or at least LVG) wanted him to cut his teeth elsewhere, and looked on us as a good option, so probably not much in terms of loan payments.
 




Cadiz Seagull

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Jul 7, 2003
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I think we sometimes under estimate what an attractive option we are for players. Man U obviously have high hopes for this guy, but they aren't going to play him this season so they lend him to us. We're a good footballing side with great facilities so we aren't going to ruin him. Yes there's a benefit for us but there's a huge benefit for them.

If he does the business with us he will go back to them at the end of the season sharper and fitter than he is now, with his confidence sky high, ready to fight for a place in their first team, Like Jesse Lingard.

If he fails with us then they will know he's not going to make it with them so they can unload him

A win win situation for them.
 




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BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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We wouldnt or rather TB wouldnt pay for Vydra so I wouldnt think it was very much more a case of giving him games. Isnt there a recall option on all loans after 28 days?
 


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Spicy

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Dec 18, 2003
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GT49er said:
As a 19 year old (OK, not for much longer, I admit) I don't think his wages at Old Trafford would be that astronomical (in footballers' terms). Don't know what percentage we'd pay.
Suspect MU (or at least LVG) wanted him to cut his teeth elsewhere, and looked on us as a good option, so probably not much in terms of loan payments.
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Would agree with that as apparently he has only played twice in the MU first team recently. We are a good prospect for promotion and have excellent training facilities so what better club for him to gain experience.
 






Brighton Mod

Brighton Mod

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Dec 30, 2012
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He will play in every league game he is fit for and there is a incentive for him as mentioned previously, do well here and he could get a start at Man U, bomb out here and he maybe off loaded. I reckon he will do well here, as for the financials, I can't see us paying £1m for the privilege of having him here for two thirds of a season.
 


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Da Man Clay

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Dec 16, 2004
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Barham's tash said:
Was considering the same thing and would assume that it was a sizeable loan fee - say maybe £1m or so plus his wages of maybe £8k per week. Quite an investment
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Not a chance. We weren't paying £2m for a proven Championship striker. There is no way we're playing anything for a fringe player with no real history. There's a recall option so we can't be paying anything anyway.
 


Cadiz Seagull

Cadiz Seagull

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Bloody right we shouldn't have paid what Reading wanted for Vydra. That was silly money for a loan, even allowing for unrealistic press speculation on what Reading paid for him.

If JW does the business over the next few weeks we'll have saved several million on the striker we need to get the goals we need to get to the Premier league. If he doesn't we can still splash the cash in January.

A win win for both us and Man U, But a bigger win for us.

That Mr Bloom, he's a pretty shrewd cookie you know; remind me never to do business with him.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Cadiz Seagull said:
I think we sometimes under estimate what an attractive option we are for players. Man U obviously have high hopes for this guy, but they aren't going to play him this season so they lend him to us. We're a good footballing side with great facilities so we aren't going to ruin him. Yes there's a benefit for us but there's a huge benefit for them.

If he does the business with us he will go back to them at the end of the season sharper and fitter than he is now, with his confidence sky high, ready to fight for a place in their first team, Like Jesse Lingard.

If he fails with us then they will know he's not going to make it with them so they can unload him

A win win situation for them.
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Kind of this. I've always felt that with top clubs it's us that's doing them the favour as opposed to us having to prise him away. I feel they'll lend their player to the club which suits them best.
 




Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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BensGrandad said:
We wouldnt or rather TB wouldnt pay for Vydra so I wouldnt think it was very much more a case of giving him games. Isnt there a recall option on all loans after 28 days?
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The recall option only applies to the emergency loan (and short term loans) and can only be activated after 28 days. Season long loans can only be recalled during the January transfer window, there is no recall option on half season loans so once it's become a half season loan then he'll be with us for the rest of the season.
 




Eeyore

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BensGrandad said:
We wouldnt or rather TB wouldnt pay for Vydra so I wouldnt think it was very much more a case of giving him games. Isnt there a recall option on all loans after 28 days?
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This is what I'm trying to fathom. I'm guessing the re-call option applies once the 28 days is up. Which would be, I guess, after the Boxing Day match.

My questions are:

1) Does this mean we cannot play him on the 29th, but can from the 1st onwards (If it becomes a season long loan) ?
2) Once he is here in January he cannot be recalled ?

My own feeling is that if he is here for the rest of the season come January then we don't need to go looking elsewhere. This boy will score a lot of goals at this level. Also, If IT happened, we would have the summer to decide on the best options at a higher level rather than be concerned as to whether our new £7 million striker was going to cut the mustard.

Whatever happens, the club have done REALLY well to get this lad in.

I'm supporting Manchester United as well for the next month- call that expedience.
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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Brighton Lines said:
This is what I'm trying to fathom. I'm guessing the re-call option applies once the 28 days is up. Which would be, I guess, after the Boxing Day match.

My questions are:

1) Does this mean we cannot play him on the 29th, but can from the 1st onwards (If it becomes a season long loan) ?
2) Once he is here in January he cannot be recalled ?
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Man Utd can recall him after 28 days this is the standard re-call clause in any short term or emergency loan. A short term or emergency loan can run for 93 days but can be turned into a half season loan during the January transfer window. There is nothing stopping him from playing for us on the 29th (unless Man Utd recall him) as this would still be covered under a 93 day emergency loan deal. My guess would be the deal to turn this loan into a half season loan will be completed and confirmed towards the end of the January window giving Man Utd as long as possible to re-call if they need too. Once the deal is confirmed and the January window closes he cannot be recalled.
 


Eeyore

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Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo said:
Man Utd can recall him after 28 days this is the standard re-call clause in any short term or emergency loan. A short term or emergency loan can run for 93 days but can be turned into a half season loan during the January transfer window. There is nothing stopping him from playing for us on the 29th (unless Man Utd recall him) as this would still be covered under a 93 day emergency loan deal. My guess would be the deal to turn this loan into a half season loan will be completed and confirmed towards the end of the January window giving Man Utd as long as possible to re-call if they need too. Once the deal is confirmed and the January window closes he cannot be recalled.
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Thanks for that. So, I guess the club has to decide whether to spend money on a new striker or not.
 








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BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo said:
Man Utd can recall him after 28 days this is the standard re-call clause in any short term or emergency loan. A short term or emergency loan can run for 93 days but can be turned into a half season loan during the January transfer window. There is nothing stopping him from playing for us on the 29th (unless Man Utd recall him) as this would still be covered under a 93 day emergency loan deal. My guess would be the deal to turn this loan into a half season loan will be completed and confirmed towards the end of the January window giving Man Utd as long as possible to re-call if they need too. Once the deal is confirmed and the January window closes he cannot be recalled.
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Are you saying we have him on a 93 day loan that we can and probably will extend for the season in January.
 


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