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[Albion] Sussex Senior Cup - we've not enough U23 players





Super Steve Earle

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Feb 23, 2009
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North of Brighton
I am not sure that you are correct on your assumption, but wouldnt argue, The County Senior Cup takes precedent over all other competitions that a club plays in and every club has to take part in their County cup competition at whatever level unless granted an exemption. This happens in Surrey as CPFC get an exemption but play the winners of the Surrey Senior Cup away in aid of the Benevolent Fund pre season, as a condition of this exemption. That is what did happen in the 90s so assume it is still the same now. As regards qualification to play in it the ruling on having played a certain number of gamed didnt come into force until the later stages usually the semi finals, again the rules may have changed since my involvement with it.

ps Just read the Sussex County FA statement apparently the national competition take precedence over county fixtures. I am wrong but I do know that Senior Cup Competitions take precedence over league fixtures for non league clubs.

Wrong again. See the post preceding yours. Do bear in mind that a lot has changed since your day in the 90's before hitting the keyboard.
 






GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
46,471
Gloucester

Hmmm ......... the U18s played on Monday, and the seniors play on Saturday. And with what, 50, 60? professionals on the books from U18s up to senior pros we can't put out a team on Wednesday?

I appreciate the ruling was made and agreed by the Sussex FA, but we must have requested it. Still doesn't sit comfortably: sorry!
 




Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
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Central Borneo / the Lizard
I am not sure that you are correct on your assumption, but wouldnt argue, The County Senior Cup takes precedent over all other competitions that a club plays in and every club has to take part in their County cup competition at whatever level unless granted an exemption. This happens in Surrey as CPFC get an exemption but play the winners of the Surrey Senior Cup away in aid of the Benevolent Fund pre season, as a condition of this exemption. That is what did happen in the 90s so assume it is still the same now. As regards qualification to play in it the ruling on having played a certain number of gamed didnt come into force until the later stages usually the semi finals, again the rules may have changed since my involvement with it.

ps Just read the Sussex County FA statement apparently the national competition take precedence over county fixtures. I am wrong but I do know that Senior Cup Competitions take precedence over league fixtures for non league clubs.

Calling [MENTION=435]Stat Brother[/MENTION]
 


Steve in Japan

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May 9, 2013
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A day's notice seems poor form. Not sure the Sussex County FA statement, or the perfunctory announcement on the Albion website, addresses that in any way.

I am mildly put out because I was going to go. Only mildly, admittedly.
 


Giraffe

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A few things on this:

1) Who do we think we are?
2) Most Sussex Senior Cup games are played by the Under 23s, they last played on the 14th and don't play again until the 30th.
3) When did thy know the under 18s were playing last night and we had the FA Cup on Saturday. Must have been at least ten days go, so why only called off today?
4) If we are going to treat this competition and the opposition we play with complete contempt might it be better to just withdraw from the competition. Should probably have fofeited the game?
5) All the above should be discounted if the answer is that the Sussex FA were as lame as always and took ten days to answer the Club's request.
 




BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
A few things on this:

1) Who do we think we are?
2) Most Sussex Senior Cup games are played by the Under 23s, they last played on the 14th and don't play again until the 30th.
3) When did thy know the under 18s were playing last night and we had the FA Cup on Saturday. Must have been at least ten days go, so why only called off today?
4) If we are going to treat this competition and the opposition we play with complete contempt might it be better to just withdraw from the competition.[ Should probably have fofeited the game?
5) All the above should be discounted if the answer is that the Sussex FA were as lame as always and took ten days to answer the Club's request.

Under FA Rules we are compelled to take part unless an exemption is granted by the County FA as in SurreyFA and CPFC.
 








Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
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Brighton
From Twitter-
Youth Cup is for U18’s, FA Cup for firsts. Does this mean we can start pulling games if a couple of players in U12’s are planning a sleepover at the weekend ??
:D:D:D:D
 




GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
46,471
Gloucester
Under FA Rules we are compelled to take part unless an exemption is granted by the County FA as in SurreyFA and CPFC.

Some counties apply this rule - Wiltshire, for instance, and Surrey too, you say. However Sussex County FA does not appear to include compulsory participation as part of its rules.

"Eligible Clubs
The entry of any Club may be rejected by the Association.
This Competition shall be open to all Saturday Clubs that affiliate to the Association at Senior level
A Club may not enter two teams in this Competition."

"Shall be open to" - i.e. eligible clubs can apply to take part if they wish. Sussex ain't Surrey - thank f***!
 






Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Calling [MENTION=435]Stat Brother[/MENTION]

I think (hope) Bensgrandad was rather stung by his opinions on Lewis Dunk, I for one welcome this sea change and hope it continues.
 


blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
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Yeh, what on earth are we doing?

If we have to put out under 15s and go out so be it, at least they gain experience. But we can't just renege on a fixture. I can't think of a single acceptable excuse. Tinpot and embarrassing
 


Blue Valkyrie

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Sep 1, 2012
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Don't we normally play mostly U18s in the Sussex Senior Cup ? Always seems to have been a young line-up recently anyway. Must be because of the game they played yesterday.
 




Thunder Bolt

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Yeh, what on earth are we doing?

If we have to put out under 15s and go out so be it, at least they gain experience. But we can't just renege on a fixture. I can't think of a single acceptable excuse. Tinpot and embarrassing

As I understand it, the Sussex FA have postponed it, not us reneging. They are the ones who put out a statement.
 





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