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Another EMBARRASSING Tory U turn



Moshe Gariani

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Eeyore

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That was the policy that was non-negotiable.

Chose a good day to let the news slip out.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Herr Tubthumper

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I'm sorry, I'm tory....they play in blue as well:albion2:

All very well telling us with the anonymity the Internet provides. Do you have the balls to tell your friends and family this as well?
 

Coldeanseagull

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Mar 13, 2013
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All very well telling us with the anonymity the Internet provides. Do you have the balls to tell your friends and family this as well?

Absolutely, though I'm very conservative with my views when it becomes a slanging match:bla:
Honestly, who really gives a hoot about politics. They all think they can do better than the opposition. Put them in power and they all implode....except for the bunnyhuggers, they were away with the fairies beforehand
 


Stat Brother

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Not specifically this issue but why are all government policy changes, irrespective of the party in question, embarrassing u-turns?

Is it really so bad for a government, for whatever reason, to change it's policy, esp after it didn't sit well with the electorate?


Surely that has to be considerably better than the alternative, a government believing it's always right.
 

Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Not specifically this issue but why are all government policy changes, irrespective of the party in question, embarrassing u-turns?

Is it really so bad for a government, for whatever reason, to change it's policy, esp after it didn't sit well with the electorate?


Surely that has to be considerably better than the alternative, a government believing it's always right.

In principle, you're right.
But this instance isn't the right time to invoke that principle. This is because the forced academisation is the epitome of an ideological crusade. There was no evidence for the policy -- if anything, that collated thus far points in the opposite direction -- and there was huge hostility towards it from head teachers, teachers, other practitioners, academic research, parents, community groups, amongst several other groups. My son's school didn't just disagree with it, but resolved to actively campaign against it, which is quite some move.
So, this is a quite clear and delicious climbdown and is testament to the value of resisting the seemingly inexorable agenda that forced academisation is but a part of: one that celebrates and repeatedly affirms choice, while simultaneously insisting that There Is No Alternative (TINA).
 

beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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this is good news, so lets applaud the decision to change thier mind over something that had little support. junior doctors next? (not sure Hunt has the humility, would have to go first).

We are very fortunate that there is a STRONG opposition holding them to account otherwise who knows what will be next.

yes, the Tory back benchers are doing a good job so far.
 


Moshe Gariani

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Mar 10, 2005
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yes, the Tory back benchers are doing a good job so far.
oh yes, the good old Tories...

Bollocks to them. The only reason they might suggest some handbrakes to the right wing ideological lunacy is because they know there is a credible alternative view being forcefully put to the public by politicians of real integrity on the opposition benches.
 

NooBHA

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Jan 13, 2015
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It is what happens when you have a crackpot bunch of toffs chucking right wing ideology at the wall and seeing what sticks.

We are very fortunate that there is a STRONG opposition holding them to account otherwise who knows what will be next.

Then vote Labour. Yes Corbyn would overspend in Government. Yes he would turn Capitalism on its head. Yes he would upset right wing activists and I could list more BUT for 4 years minority groups would be supported. Poor and disabled families would have a little bit more to live on and kids would grow up in a more equilibrium society but I would rather have that than rich or semi rich be able be able to run 2 cars than just the one.
 

Lawro's Lip

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Feb 14, 2004
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Not specifically this issue but why are all government policy changes, irrespective of the party in question, embarrassing u-turns?

Is it really so bad for a government, for whatever reason, to change it's policy, esp after it didn't sit well with the electorate?


Surely that has to be considerably better than the alternative, a government believing it's always right.

Whatever happened to finding out what people think , building some consensus and then announcing what you plan to do?
 

Sussex Nomad

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Aug 26, 2010
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Not specifically this issue but why are all government policy changes, irrespective of the party in question, embarrassing u-turns?

Is it really so bad for a government, for whatever reason, to change it's policy, esp after it didn't sit well with the electorate?


Surely that has to be considerably better than the alternative, a government believing it's always right.

That's what I was thinking. People demand a Govt back track on what they see as a divisive policy. The Govt (of the time) listen to the people and reverse a decision and the same people are up in arms about how spineless they are. I'll never understand politics and neither will those that moan at every decision made.
 

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