mikeyjh
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You're right of course, we (and the school in question) should be doing far more to than a couple of visits to help educate the children about other cultures.
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Lincolnshire school denied top rating for being 'Too White'
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You're right of course, we (and the school in question) should be doing far more to than a couple of visits to help educate the children about other cultures.
- Jan 3, 2012
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Having just accessed the OFSTED website and looked at the report for the school, I would say that the telegraph and mail (where else) reports on this are irresponsible and deliberately trying to stir up controversy.
The report, from a quick scan, does not use the expression "too white" (surprise, surprise). In fact if anything it recognises that the school is doing a good job in this general area with the following paragraph, which probably recognises the difficulty of tackling this area in the sort of rural location of the school.
"Pupils’ cultural development is good. They learn about different people’s social and ethnic backgrounds, customs and beliefs. However, opportunities for them to develop a deeper understanding of the nature of modern British society by interacting at first hand with their counterparts from different cultural background beyond the immediate locality are underdeveloped."
So fair play to OFSTED, as this was the third listed of the three weaknesses of the school. and 0/10 for the Telegraph and the Mail for trying to create Bushy's comment of "A Storm in a Teacup". Although readers of those two papers will probably not set great store by the facts of the matter.
The report, from a quick scan, does not use the expression "too white" (surprise, surprise). In fact if anything it recognises that the school is doing a good job in this general area with the following paragraph, which probably recognises the difficulty of tackling this area in the sort of rural location of the school.
"Pupils’ cultural development is good. They learn about different people’s social and ethnic backgrounds, customs and beliefs. However, opportunities for them to develop a deeper understanding of the nature of modern British society by interacting at first hand with their counterparts from different cultural background beyond the immediate locality are underdeveloped."
So fair play to OFSTED, as this was the third listed of the three weaknesses of the school. and 0/10 for the Telegraph and the Mail for trying to create Bushy's comment of "A Storm in a Teacup". Although readers of those two papers will probably not set great store by the facts of the matter.
mikeyjh
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Funny thing is, I'll bet that you didn't read the article before you wrote that. And you still nailed it!
The school has been marked down for the way it is teaching its pupils, it's not the pupils that have been marked down (ie, it is not inferred that the children are inferior).The inference in this case is that the children of that school are somehow inferior because, through no fault of their own, of where they live (which ironically is pretty close to the definition of racism). There must be a better way of making that point
- Jan 3, 2012
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If you bother to read the report, as I have, it isn't an "otherwise outstanding performing school"
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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You obviously haven't met my family.
daveinprague
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And you would think the UKIP member would be pushing for that. I wonder why he isnt.
Very true, will be interesting to see what the truth was there. Trouble is that most people have formed their opinion based on the newspaper headlines and don't want to be bogged down in details like facts.
As a regular visitor to Lincolnshire I can assure you that the risk they will become racist bigots is extraordinarily high. Its a pretty part of the country mysteriously trapped in attitudes most hoped had disappeared after they stopped showing Love Thy Neighbour.
JCL666
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- Sep 23, 2011
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Here's the report
http://ofsted.gov.uk/inspection-reports/find-inspection-report/provider/ELS/120463
It's ridiculous and dishonest how this is being portrayed by the media or by posters on here with a blatant agenda.
http://ofsted.gov.uk/inspection-reports/find-inspection-report/provider/ELS/120463
It's ridiculous and dishonest how this is being portrayed by the media or by posters on here with a blatant agenda.
Quite incredibly really, isn't it?
Please humour us (limp wristed leftie liberals) [MENTION=11956]bushy[/MENTION] and explain just how, teaching these kids about life in some mythical exclusively white English utopia, that no longer exists, will be helpful to their development, or their future interactions with the real world?
father_and_son
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How about the "visit to a mosque" being the culmination of a cross-curriculum, term-long project covering life in the Middle East exploring...
the Geography of the region,
the Climate and how a desert contrasts with the English climate,
the history of Mathematics and the number system we use today,
the prehistoric past of the region and why oil is so abundant and accessible there but not here,
the Crusades and the clash of the Christian and Muslim cultures through history including the significance of the Red Cross in English culture,
finally comparing and contrasting the three main religions and learn why Muslims also revere Jesus.
[MENTION=11956]bushy[/MENTION] and the intolerant folk can consider these sections of the project as...
Draw a map of the Middle East and name all the countries we've invaded in the past few decades,
Why people from hot countries look different,
Arabs... what can we learn from that bunch of savages,
Why is it cost effective to bomb the cr*p out of a sovereign nation for the actions of a loosely connected group of radicals,
Why would Muslims have reason to dislike Westerners. And why is the Red Cross replaced the Red Crescent in parts of the world,
and finally, why these people are SO different, we can't possibly allow them to live in our village!
- Jan 3, 2012
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I think this should immediately be forwarded to the Department for Education as a majorly important cross-curricular syllabus suggestion.
The only possible omission is that writing was invented in Iraq, but then that may not be considered particularly important in the history of civilisation.
father_and_son
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Can I be slightly pedantic? I believe it was Persia, as Iraq didn't exist then, and although they cover a similar region they are not exactly the same (Persia also including parts of Iran). But hat's off for including the English department in our cross-curriculum project, I would have just resorted to "Write a story about..." if I wanted them included!
father_and_son
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For an older age group, it would include.... Multiply two Roman Numeral numbers together without converting them. Then try to divide two numbers in Roman Numerals without converting them. Then find anyone of Arabic decent, shake their hand and thank them warmly for making life so much easier than it could have been!
Pretty pink fairy
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- Jan 30, 2008
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Be as pedantic as you like. I am always happy to accept when I might be factually wrong, and always appreciate the knowledge of others!
Absolutely patronising drivel .....
Of course you encourage all the virtues that are necessary to function within the modern world, but you lot that foist upon, arguably a far more tolerant and less religiously driven or divided community, a set of termly visits to some proclaimed multi cultural centre that we are told might broaden our otherwise flawed predominately white communities is quite frankly offensive.
Sweeney Todd
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I grew up in monocultural 1970s' Lancing. Then I moved to London. My generation was the last to be educated without a multiculturalist agenda, yet I had no problems adapting to my new diverse surroundings.