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We? Isn't there a department within the EU that would hear the French complaints and make the rules for the fishing? There were rules, and the British boats were fishing within them when they were attacked.
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[Politics] Brexit – what will happen?
- Thread starter Triggaaar
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How about if they offered us the deal that Cameron took to them in the first place? Whatever that was.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
Don't worry about losing out on Brexit discussions after March, if the deal goes through then we will be talking out a trade deal for about 5 years and trying to invent magic border controls without a border for Northern Ireland. If we go out without a deal or transition period, we will be trying to join EFTA, and once in trying to figure out our next move, and if we have another referendum and remain wins, everyones favourite Palace Fan, Nigel Farage will be returning to Brussels to insult everyone and go out for lunch when he should be in a Fisheries Committee meeting.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
If we look like heading into a no deal situation, I am sure the EU will offer us a period of extended membership, in return for £39 Billion or so, which we would be nuts not to take. If we pay nothing there will be legal wrangles trying to get at least some of it, they won't want to be saddled with Farage's pension.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
It would be Norway, plus a Customs Union, so it would be like membership, but without the right to vote or veto anything.
- Apr 5, 2014
- 23,599
Should have gone for that from the start. But in reality it would never have happened.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
If 600,000 changed their minds, it would be 50/50, 1.2 million to get the opposite result. It is reckoned about 600,000 more leavers have died than remainers, so just needs 1 or 2 people to change their mind really.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
You're a do-as-you-likey?
Don't really want to poke my nose in here Trig but..... as I recall at the time the French fisheries dept or whatever they're called had stopped French fishermen/boats from fishing for these species for a further month to allow stock recovery which their British fisherie dept counterparts did not introduce these measures, therefore the British fleet started fishing these grounds legally in British eyes that the French were not allowed to do. This meant the French fishermen saw this as unfair and felt the British had an advantage and would take all the catch while they could only look on, consequently their illegal harassment of the British boats ensued. That's how I remember it was reported anyway? sorry, I'll butt out now.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
The EU had no restriction in place, however, the French had a ban in place on its fleet to protect the breeding stock. The UK had agreed a compromise in the last few years, with the French, in that we would not allow our larger vessels to fish for scallops till the end of October, smaller vessels could still fish for scallop. The French suspect that because of Brexit, the British fleet were not concerned with preserving stocks for next year, as we would not have access to the Bay next year, and the larger vessels appeared.
So yes, the French fishermen broke the law, the Brits did not, but the Brits broke an agreement not to send the bigger boats, and the agreement was there for good reason. I think this is an instance where you have to break the law to do the right thing, going to court to get a ban would take longer than the British boats would need to clear the bay of scallops, with the potential to ruin scallop fishing in the area for years.
- Jan 3, 2012
- 16,597
Totally agree. I am sure a major issue was the perception through austerity that this Europe thing was not working for many.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
The present EU bunch will be LOVING every second of this, watching the UK infight and then go back, presumably after a second/third/fourth/fifth vote, with our tail between our legs.
'Please can we stay, but don't punish us too much'.
More money? Sure. Shall we lapdance for you? We can't go anywhere, so of course we shall.
We are f###ed.
'Please can we stay, but don't punish us too much'.
More money? Sure. Shall we lapdance for you? We can't go anywhere, so of course we shall.
We are f###ed.
We have been since Cameron decided to try and unite the Conservative party and win an election on the back of an EU referendum.
I’m shocked that so many people think that we can just simply renegotiate the Maydeal. That took 2 years to agree with most of the major issues still to be decided. We’ve only got a few months till we leave.
The EU have us exactly where they want us. Even Trump acknowledged that they’d played a blinder. They want a 2nd referendum and a remain vote win. They could get it now. At least we’ll all be better off in the pocket despite a loss of pride and thousands of ‘remainers’ moving out of the country (to somewhere like Spain) because they lost.
Lower West Stander
Well-known member
I just don’t care anymore.
I’m absolutely bloody sick of it. Nobody voted for this absolute mess
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I’m absolutely bloody sick of it. Nobody voted for this absolute mess
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Judging by the idiocy so far we will go bumbling out of the EU in the worst case scenario and it’ll only get worse. It’s over. The idiots won. The country is ruled and populated by utter morons. It’ll be generations before we get it back under sane control.
Well done morons, you ****ed the United Kingdom. At least you can believe you won something.
Well done morons, you ****ed the United Kingdom. At least you can believe you won something.
murciagull
Active member
Sorry don't understand this post did the remainers win or lose?
darkwolf666
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darkwolf666
Well-known member
Do you really believe that if we go back to the EU and say “sorry chaps, we’ve changed our minds”, that things would go on as before, with no punishments? Losing the pound seems the obvious slap in the face!
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Yes, it's written in law. Why on earth should an elected body, of which we are part, want to punish us? Where has this daft idea come from?
Project Fear by Leavers?
