Onside or offside?

Two Professors

Two Mad Professors

Jul 13, 2009

7,617

Multicultural Brum

• Apr 30, 2016

• #21

Officials are never wrong!Offside,and no arguing or it's a card for dissent.











Actually,I had quite a good view and thought it was an appalling decision,but sssshhhhhh

 

Arkwright

Arkwright

Oct 26, 2010

2,790

Caterham, Surrey

• Apr 30, 2016

• #22

It's on side very clear to me.

It all evens itself out over a season.

 

Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011

10,675

• Apr 30, 2016

• #23

Clearly offside.
Claiming anything else is bringing the game into disrepute.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Boro get docked 4 points after Karanka's disgraceful comments about scoring most goals and not winning.

 

drew

Drew

Oct 3, 2006

23,050

Burgess Hill

• Apr 30, 2016

• #24

GingerBeerMan said:

Well, I care. Hence the question.

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Why do you care then? I can understand a pub discussion about it but do you really care one way or the other? The game is over and the result was a draw. Nothing, other than the possibility of illegible players in the game, will change that.

 

Captain Sensible

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Jul 8, 2003

6,435

Not the real one

• Apr 30, 2016

• #25

Offside from the free kick, gained an advantage, then scored after whilst in an onside position. It's offside back from the initial free kick. As I said before on another thread. The offside rule is more traditional this year, if you are offside but don't touch the ball, but you are active in the play you are deemed as gaining an advantage. It's offside. Holloway doesn't know the rules.

 

LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.

Oct 14, 2009

12,982

Sheffield

• Apr 30, 2016

• #26

I thought he was miles onside when I watched it live but the replays show that he was off and then moved back into an onside position. The lino actually indicated that this was the case so it was in fact a really good decision. Doesn't change the fact that we'd be spitting feathers if the same thing had happened to us or that because it was Boro it's bloody funny.

 

glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick

Nov 29, 2005

20,261

somewhere in Eastbourne

• Apr 30, 2016

• #27

HAILSHAM SEAGULL said:

Pause it on 55 seconds, just as Ayala steps back and takes his shot, eye through the mower cut and he it clearly offside.
I think its a great desicion by the lino

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what I saw too
but who the **** cares it was given as offside
it might be the decision that sends us up...............................thats life .........you win some some you lose some

 

Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005

50,171

Goldstone

• Apr 30, 2016

• #28

GingerBeerMan said:

Ian Holloway has his theory of "lino can't see the blue shirt" debunked almost immediately by Boateng who even wanted a 'brough win.

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Holloway was being an idiot. The Sky presenter couldn't believe what he was hearing and wanted someone to offer an alternative view, but that's not his job, so he had to bite his tongue.

HAILSHAM SEAGULL said:

Pause it on 55 seconds, just as Ayala steps back and takes his shot, eye through the mower cut and he it clearly offside.
I think its a great desicion by the lino

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I think pausing it on 55 seconds is a fraction of a second after the ball is played, and then it looks like he's offside, and that's why the lino has got it wrong. Worzel seems to have forgotten that the linesman can't pause the TV is live play. It was a really difficult decision to get right.

 

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fleet

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Jul 28, 2003

12,222

• Apr 30, 2016

• #29

Very close either way and officials make mistakes all the time. This isn't the only mistake (if it is one!) and is not a decision that shapes a season, there will have been decisions that went in their favour and those that went against them - thats life.

 

Albumen

Don't wait for me!

Jan 19, 2010

11,495

Brighton - In your face

• Apr 30, 2016

• #30

Why did Fabbrini take it off Davis' head for his second is my main problem from last night.

 

Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005

50,171

Goldstone

• Apr 30, 2016

• #31

fleet said:

Very close either way and officials make mistakes all the time. This isn't the only mistake (if it is one!) and is not a decision that shapes a season, there will have been decisions that went in their favour

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Like the fact that they shouldn't have had the bloody free-kick in the first place!!!

 

Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005

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Goldstone

• Apr 30, 2016

• #32

Albumen said:

Why did Fabbrini take it off Davis' head for his second is my main problem from last night.

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I know, unbelievable! A great defensive header.

 

Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005

50,171

Goldstone

• Apr 30, 2016

• #33

I can't believe most think it was offside

 

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GingerBeerMan

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• Apr 30, 2016

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• #34

drew said:

Why do you care then? I can understand a pub discussion about it but do you really care one way or the other? The game is over and the result was a draw. Nothing, other than the possibility of illegible players in the game, will change that.

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Because I've watched it a million times and I can't work out if it's on or offside. I want to see what people think to try and decide myself if it's on or off. This thread isn't about justifying the result or saying Middlesbrough were hard done by, it's a review of an incident in isolation because I'm genuinely interested what people think.

That's why I asked for people to try and look at it from a neutral perspective, because I don't care what people think about it as an event that changed the Championship, yet some people really can't seem to let that go (which is true judging by the light hearted 'suspensions all round' comments).

 

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Shropshire Seagull

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Nov 5, 2004

8,496

Telford

• May 1, 2016

• #35

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn !

 

Seagull58

In the Algarve

Jan 31, 2012

7,246

Vilamoura, Portugal

• May 1, 2016

• #36

I thought he was offside and stepped back onside to take the shot. Well done lino and an abject public apology is due from the Sky "pundits".

 

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TheJasperCo

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Jan 20, 2012

4,594

Exeter

• May 1, 2016

• #37

Don't care.

Now on a more serious topic looking at that clip, Holloway and the other pundit seem awfully "close" at times. Anyone else notice at about 01:05? And they're both wearing identical suits, with matching pocket handkerchiefs. Close your legs Holloway, your trousers are too tight

 

nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003

13,760

Manchester

• May 1, 2016

• #38

It looks a poor decision to me. However, it's one decision in a 46 game season. I'm sure Boro have had plenty of bad decisions in their favour.

 

Frutos

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• May 1, 2016

• #39

drew said:

Nothing, other than the possibility of illegible players in the game, will change that.

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I think you mean 'ineligible'.

 

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BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003

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• May 1, 2016

• #40

Not 100% sure on the full extent of the offside rule, having not checked latest amendments but isnt the NO 21, Rhodes? in the centre of the goal clearly in an offside position but does interfering with play or being in the keepers eye sight a point now. I thought that FIFA changed the ruling as a result of a Man U goal last season with Rooney being in a clear offside position. As I said I am not sure.