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[Albion] Using the lift to get to west upper
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HankSkorpio
Member
When I had an op that temporarily restricted my ability to walk, I asked the club if I could use the lift to WSU, but was told it was a goods lift and not for people.
This was a few years back.
So I had to hobble slowly up and down the stairs.
There are different lifts in the west, some of which presumably comply to fire safety and some do not. When I was doing voluntary work at the club I'd get the lift up from the players tunnel level to the west upper concourse to transport myself & equipment. They'd often be catering staff in there with trolleys full of pies etc too. It was fairly busy with staff. However, when I attended the McGhee/Booker event in one of the 1901 lounges I entered via the main entrance and used a different lift. So my hunch is the one that goes up to the concourse isn't suitable for exiting in a fire and perhaps that's where the confusion comes from.
pearl
Well-known member
He left a few seasons back, replaced by Stockdale.
I had my knee reconstructed after being knocked of my bike, once I was well enough to move about but not climb that amount of stairs I contacted supporter services and they gave me a seat in the disabled area for a couple of games. I had to send them proof that I had an injury. Managed to get back to my own just seat in time for the Wigan game and see us promoted. I was going up their no matter what so slowly and with crutches I made it. Surprisingly over took some people on the way up.
Yes. A solution will be needed.
Despite the sour replies from one or two poster (not you) who seem to think I am being ungrateful for not throwing myself prostrate at the feet of the head of 'matchday experience' for kindly switching my seats, my question was simply 'why can't I use a lift that (it now transpires is clear) others use on a one-off?'. Nobody at the club told me that I would be refused entry if I could access my seat only with crutches or by lift (which isn't even the case) or could leave west upper only by lift (which isn't the case) or that I pose a health and safety risk if I go up to west upper and struggle to get down again (which arguably I may). The reason given was that (to summarise what I already said) if I accessed west upper by lift the club could not guarantee I would be able to egress by the same lift if there were a fire. That, I suggested, is a rum sort of explanation, and I think I'm allowed to raise an eyebrow about it, if only a little bit.
Regarding the latter point, there are plenty of older people who struggle up and down the stairs just because thay are old and unfit. In the event of a fire, say, they will not be able to leap down the stairs any quicker than I can right now. So to say I cannot use a lift because if I do and there is a fire and I am up on west upper I would burn to death or be a hazard to others attempting to leave is a somewhat peculiar thing to say all the while other people with limited mobility are allowed in, puffing and wheezing and limping, no questions asked. Anyway, I am replying to the thread again only because one arse thinks it would be better had the club jus told me to do one, and I'm irritated by that. The clown.
Anyway, I am sure that Ernest can start a spoof thread mocking my thwarted sense of 'entitlement' (albeit I won't read it because I blocked him a while ago). Some people.....
In your OP you weren’t complaining in the slightest, just gently putting a reasonably question out there. Bizarrely you received a couple of replies as if you’d been an ungrateful so and so. It’s a funny old game!
Superphil
Dismember
You’re not supposed to use lifts in the event of a fire
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Yes. A solution will be needed.
Despite the sour replies from one or two poster (not you) who seem to think I am being ungrateful for not throwing myself prostrate at the feet of the head of 'matchday experience' for kindly switching my seats, my question was simply 'why can't I use a lift that (it now transpires is clear) others use on a one-off?'. Nobody at the club told me that I would be refused entry if I could access my seat only with crutches or by lift (which isn't even the case) or could leave west upper only by lift (which isn't the case) or that I pose a health and safety risk if I go up to west upper and struggle to get down again (which arguably I may). The reason given was that (to summarise what I already said) if I accessed west upper by lift the club could not guarantee I would be able to egress by the same lift if there were a fire. That, I suggested, is a rum sort of explanation, and I think I'm allowed to raise an eyebrow about it, if only a little bit.
Regarding the latter point, there are plenty of older people who struggle up and down the stairs just because thay are old and unfit. In the event of a fire, say, they will not be able to leap down the stairs any quicker than I can right now. So to say I cannot use a lift because if I do and there is a fire and I am up on west upper I would burn to death or be a hazard to others attempting to leave is a somewhat peculiar thing to say all the while other people with limited mobility are allowed in, puffing and wheezing and limping, no questions asked. Anyway, I am replying to the thread again only because one arse thinks it would be better had the club jus told me to do one, and I'm irritated by that. The clown.
Anyway, I am sure that Ernest can start a spoof thread mocking my thwarted sense of 'entitlement' (albeit I won't read it because I blocked him a while ago). Some people.....
What a total bore you've become
BensGrandad
New member
I said this when The Amex plan s first came out. We should have followed The Bernabau example and installed escalators to go up to the top of WSU.
portslade seagull
Well-known member
Tried the same when I broke my ankle. It was a straight no due to health and safety. I was also offered a temporary alternative which I suppose in the scheme of things is still good PR
I assumed it was a lack of site space, but the club had to draw the line somewhere on the £90m cost (Tony's money).
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It is indeed. Its a wonder that every thread on here doesn't degenerate into.........oh.
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What if I wanted to use the lift on Saturdy and there is no fire? That would be fine surely?
However, the more I read this thread, the more I am convinced that the Amex is going to burn down on Saturday. I'm beginnng to wish I hadn't started it now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmin5WkOuPw
absolutely this, most offices have lifts of three or floors can you imagine any employer telling their staff they cant use lifts in morning in case a fire occurs
I’ve only skim read the thread but I can confirm that lifts can be used in a fire if they are designed as evacuation lifts. Amongst other things this requires fire rated enclosures, fire rated lobby protection and dual power supply. There are also firefighting lifts (do you think fire fighters will climb to the top story of the Shard to tackle a fire!) designed along similar lines but with the added protection of a smoke ventilation system.
On the point of providing lift access but no lift escape this is normally dealt with by providing disabled refuges and evacuation chairs. Presumably the West Upper was designed with no public access lifts (just goods lifts) and therefore no disabled refuge and evacuation chair provisions.
On the point of providing lift access but no lift escape this is normally dealt with by providing disabled refuges and evacuation chairs. Presumably the West Upper was designed with no public access lifts (just goods lifts) and therefore no disabled refuge and evacuation chair provisions.
But they will have disabled refuges and procedures in place for carrying down disabled occupants. Presumably the West Upper doesn’t have these facilities.
It is indeed. Its a wonder that every thread on here doesn't degenerate into.........oh.
Have you ever had a glance at threads on comeonboro or readytogo ? Fans seem in constant warfare with each other, with barely veiled threats about "meeting up". They make Sussex & Faversham seem a very civilised part of the football world.