ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
My one hope on that is The DUP's position on the Irish border and Northern Ireland's trading position with the EU becomes a red line, making a soft-Brexit more likely.
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General Election 2017
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My one hope on that is The DUP's position on the Irish border and Northern Ireland's trading position with the EU becomes a red line, making a soft-Brexit more likely.
Yes fair enough.
Did I say interviews or interview? I watched her interview with Jon Snow and thought she was fine. I imagine avoiding many other interviews cost her votes, as did some of the policies (like fox hunting).
I mean literally what the ****? They're so out of touch with the general public. Why would you risk everything on poxy fox hunting FFS
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Labour wins Kensington to complete the humiliation for May
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
The new Irish PM says:
"We must ensure that the Brexit talks are handled in a smooth and coherent manner to secure the best possible outcome for Ireland, for Europe and the UK. The results of the UK election indicate to me that there is no strong mandate to proceed with a hard Brexit, which represents an opportunity for Ireland."
"We must ensure that the Brexit talks are handled in a smooth and coherent manner to secure the best possible outcome for Ireland, for Europe and the UK. The results of the UK election indicate to me that there is no strong mandate to proceed with a hard Brexit, which represents an opportunity for Ireland."
JCL666
absurdism
- Sep 23, 2011
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I think she's more likely to become a senior figure within the Westminster set up.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Will Lady Victoria Borwick be headed for The Job Centre now?
It will be interesting to see what happens with JC and the PLP too.....there are two ways of looking at their result....one he done great (football speak there
) in the 6 weeks or so from when TM called the election and what a campaign he led, look how he closed the gap......or the other is Labour were so far behind before hand because of JC himself: to the public he is like marmite and that also actually he is not a good leader of the party and his shadow cabinet (which is different to running a good campaign which he has done). Theresa May run an abysmal campaign with unappealing policies based on the back of a Brexit vote that leaves us all in the fog and yet Labour are still in reality a long way from even a coalition let alone a majority (even if you add up all the "progressive parties" seats they are behind the Tories, JC maths seems to be as bad as Dianne Abbotts
)....also I think if the Tories can form a minority govt (as it looks like they will be doing with the DUP) the fixed term act is still law so that means that no election can now be called until 2022 (unless 2/3 of MP's vote for it
which the Tories would only agree to if they think it is in there favour). That according to George Osbourne is still the situation, it is in the Tories 2017 manifesto to change the fixed term act, but all is off the table in respect of that after last nights result (ITV was very interesting and informative this morning) how old would Jezza be in June 2022....70+One thing is for sure as well, there is no way May will lead the Tories in another GE.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
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Old new or new old (?) voters then but May did attract them back to the fold.
The Remainer surge helping Labour in some Tory marginal seats will go the same way after Brexit has happened then. The Tories will have to broaden their appeal to a younger demographic if this doesn't turn out to be a one off surge of enthusiasm for voting. Plus it's probably worth pointing out people do get older (!) and generally turn more Conservative as they take on more responsibilities. Overall I think it's more that the Tories forgot the electorate don't like being taken for granted and told hard truths but do love free stuff .. it was ever thus.
No, I thought that parliament had already authorised the government to conduct the negotiations.
That I must concede
Falmer Flutter ©
Well-known member
Haha, of course it does, Lords decided in March that MPs had to have "meaningful vote" on the Brexit outcome. This was the whole point of the bloody election in the first place to avoid any back-bench rebellion.
Very happy with my spoiled vote.
She's not an MP at the moment though ... and I can't imagine the Tories would be too happy about creating a by-election for her.
I've no idea whether she's a fanatical Tory or not but I do imagine that she's spitting about the DUP deal and it would be a good time for Labour to sound her out.
But if we look like we have to accept the free movement of people etc, then it becomes something we can't use to negotiate with, as we have to have it. I'd rather we talked tough, and then back down later in exchange for a fair deal elsewhere.
May to be next PM - 1/16. Buying money?
...also I think if the Tories can form a minority govt (as it looks like they will be doing with the DUP) the fixed term act is still law so that means that no election can now be called until 2022 (unless 2/3 of MP's vote for it
If there is a vote of No Confidence in the Government, an election can be called. I think that's the point of the references to the Queen's Speech and so on. If that doesn't get through, then it's effectively a vote of no confidence. Also, the Tories manifesto was to 'repeal' the Act, but like many of their other policies, they didn't actually say what they would replace it with. So, it's still live. After all a hung parliament doesn't mean the whole manifesto is out the window, but they can only get stuff through that others are okay with. So, if they all want to repeal it, they can do so.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Lord Buckethead to be in the next cabinet
Right, so why have people called for May to guarantee that EU nationals can stay, if that's not in her power to do anyway?