[Politics] Brexit

Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

What about flights? We would as it stands not be able to operate flights to any where in the world? What's you opinion on that one?

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

Can you honestly sit there and think everyone will go, "oh that's okay then"

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

How do you know that?

Did anyone truly believe we would have got anywhere with the EU two years ago? Was the outcome ever going to be any different to what is it now, where the EU have us by the short and curleys and control us even though we have left?

Our error was negotiating a "whole deal". it should have been done piece by piece.

Agree on citizens rights two years ago. Your's can say. Our can stays. Agreed. Sign it off. Move on to avation. Sign it off. All the time everything was link to a trade deal, the EU always had us on the Irish boarder. They knew that, they've got what they want.

The red lines should have been drawn two ago, and the moment the EU told us they would agree to it, we should have walked away.

As for being illegal to negotitate deal? The PM has already said we are talking to new trade partners and even spelt out what she excepts from some of them.

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WATFORD zero said:

All goods would start getting stockpiled at ports and airports as we would have no rules, tariffs or quotas on which to work and no method of charging, recording or collecting anything we did try to charge or any staff to administer it.

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beorhthelm said:

do you honestly believe this?

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beorhthelm said:

do you honestly believe this?

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GJN1 said:

There's that 'believe' word again. So, what do you think is going to happen?

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Klaas said:

Charming take:

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CHAPPERS said:

So May has made no progress in Brussels and is going to go right to the wire in order to attempt to get a deal through that nobody wants. Brilliant.

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

Because I believe that will happen. This is not MPs passing some law that poeple dont like. This is MP's taking a public vote, which was made with the promise that is binding and Parliament will do what the people want, and now saying, **** you lot, us 600 plus MP have decided we know best and you have no voice and we are going to act against your wishes.

Can you honestly sit there and think everyone will go, "oh that's okay then" while the EU gloat at us. Dream on.

“Do what we want or else suffer the consequences” - That's how democracy works isn't it. The far right will be cumming in their pants if Brexit is cancelled. It will be the biggest boast they ever get.

What is quite unpleasant, is the people who did not like the outcome of a referendum, doing all the could to stop the democratic decision.

And don't be such a tw at all the time. Because I think this will happen against MPs, doesn't mean I agree with it. It is possible to have a point of view that you do not agree with. Try it sometime

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Westdene Seagull said:

You mean those Henry 8th powers that Gina Miller went to court over and proved the government couldn't use them ?

The only way that date is moving is with another act of Parliamement. Given MPs aren't getting to vote on the deal until the second week of January at the very earliest there's little chance of getting new legislation passed to change the date before the 29th March. Ironically Gina Miller may have accidently assisted in an accidental 'no deal' ...... now that would be funny.

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Baldseagull said:

Are you sure about that? I thought it was a different matter that Gina Miller argued against, using Royal Perogative to issue Article 50.

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

Well as someone else pointed, you love to push people for answer, but flounce of yourself when challenged.

So, I'll ask you a question, why would no deal be so bad?

How do you think the EU would treat us if we cancelled Brexit and went crawling back to them?

Do you think with no deal, trade will stop on 30th March? After all you have told us we will have no WTO rules in place, or trade deals, so what will happen?

Do you think planes will be grounded, because as you have suggested we will have no aviation laws to go by, as we use EU laws, and we will no longer be part of the EU.

So Mr know all, what will happen?

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daveinplzen said:

Walking away without a deal, will cost the country considerably more than any legal obligations we may have or not. I might not like that.

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

How? The EU is broke. Spain will need help soon. Italy will need help soon. Ireland will need help soon. Maybe even France will need help soon. Financially where is all that help coming from , now that the UK will not be giving them money. Germany. I am sure that will go down well in a country where the far right are gaining strength at an alarming rate.

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Baldseagull said:

I disagree, yes there are some member states with big economic problems, a no deal Brexit will hurt the EU, and some members more than others but overall they would lose less than we would. The EU as a whole has less debt to GDP than the UK, and that is with the extreme issues in Greece and Italy. The EU is not broke.

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