Do you actually support Trump?

symyjym · Mar 23, 2017

CHAPPERS said:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...ence-trump-associates-colluded-russia-n737446

Also, to say that Trump may have been wrong is the same as saying Trump openly lied.

And the point of the link is?

I am happy for the west to get out of the cold war mentality where our governments try to use this fear to get what they want. Do you remember Cameron say that if we leave Europe, it will lead to WWIII with Russia?

Regarding Syria I am happy that the west isn’t supporting and supplying arms and training to the FSA who change sides and exchange weapons and prisoners with the “more “extreme fighting groups.

Anyway remind me of this Trump lie that will destroy countries and continents?

beorhthelm · Mar 23, 2017

symyjym said:
He may have been wrong about Obama ordering it but the CIA certainly tapped him and are tapping him now.

evidence?

CHAPPERS · Mar 23, 2017

The point of the link is to show that the US and it's intelligence agencies seem to have every reason to tap Trump however they want and it seems there's evidence to show that the Republican party were courting the Russians during an election campaign.

You are openly admitting here that you don't see an issue with the President accusing Obama, by name, of tapping his phones. Or am I reading you wrong?

studio150 · Mar 23, 2017

symyjym said:
He may have been wrong about Obama ordering it but the CIA certainly tapped him and are tapping him now. They are more interested in spying on their own camp than anywhere else these days. Did Obama order the tapping of Merkle or did the CIA just do what the CIA does?

Evidence?

symyjym · Mar 23, 2017

studio150 said:
Evidence?

I can't tell you it's top secret.

studio150 · Mar 23, 2017

symyjym said:
I can't tell you it's top secret.

So there is no evidence just another made up story that is without foundation

daveinprague · Mar 24, 2017

Looks like the Trumpanzee is heading for defeat with his repealing of Obamacare. Believe he said there was no Plan B didnt he?

Actually, Im starting to feel sorry for Spicer. He will have a torrid evening.

sparkie · Mar 24, 2017

What is the head of the FBI doing at the White House now ?

Stat Brother · Mar 24, 2017

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AZ Gull · Mar 24, 2017

daveinprague said:
Looks like the Trumpanzee is heading for defeat with his repealing of Obamacare. Believe he said there was no Plan B didnt he?

Actually, Im starting to feel sorry for Spicer. He will have a torrid evening.

The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) was signed into law SEVEN YEARS ago yesterday. That means the Republicans have had all that time to develop an alternative. The House has actually passed about 60 repeals of the legislation over the years but they obviously went nowhere as they were never going to be signed by ...... President Obama.

In November the Republicans finally gain control of the House, Senate and have a "Republican" voted into the White House. There is even talk of Trump convening a session of the House on his inauguration day to repeal the Act. It soon becomes clear, however, that there is no consensus among the different groupings in the Republican caucus for a replacement. Even so, a ridiculously truncated timetable is established (it took more than a year of discussion and debate for the original Act to emerge) and the vote is set, symbolically, for the anniversary of the Obamacare signing.

The vote gets pulled yesterday when it emerges that despite lots of wrangling there simply aren't the votes for it to pass (not surprising, given that it has a stupidly low 17% approval rating amongst the public). President Trump gives an ultimatum that the vote has to happen today. And now, the vote gets pulled again when there still aren't sufficient votes to pass it.

This has got to be one of the most incompetently handled pieces of legislation in living memory. Well done, Republicans, well done.

wokingone · Mar 24, 2017

Failed travel ban, failed repeal of Obamacare, low approval ratings little support from own party, failed president

nicko31 · Mar 24, 2017

wokingone said:
Failed travel ban, failed repeal of Obamacare, low approval ratings little support from own party, failed president

Just been watching Trump's press conference, comedy gold

daveinprague · Mar 24, 2017

Blaming Democrats. The man is SERIOUSLY comedy gold

studio150 · Mar 24, 2017

Where to next, after no replacement of health care, no travel ban, no wall

Maybe he needs another weekend off to recharge his batteries at his Holiday complex.

Coxovi · Mar 24, 2017

Great day for checks and balances, the madman gets a right slap down. Agree with blaming democrats being beneath contempt. His party controls every branch of government, with that goes any right to blame the opposition. Reality is republicans are only able to say what they don't like, not offer any viable alternatives.

beorhthelm · Mar 24, 2017

i haven't been paying attention to this particular sub-saga, has he just gone to war with his own party? know this would happen, he's just not used to having to work with people to do politics.

Jim Van Winkle · Mar 24, 2017

studio150 said:
Where to next, after no replacement of health care, no travel ban, no wall

Maybe he needs another weekend off to recharge his batteries at his Holiday complex.

Another failed bill in tax reform up next. Tax reform has not happened in the US since 1986. I doubt it's going to happen under Trump.

No doubt we will get some Twitter ramblings at 3am after watching his favorite news channel Fox. It will probably be Obama again spying on him through his Samsung TV.

Stato · Mar 24, 2017

Are there any bookies offering prices on an early morning Twitter storm from the Berocca Infused Nabob?

Theatre of Trees · Mar 25, 2017

beorhthelm said:
i haven't been paying attention to this particular sub-saga, has he just gone to war with his own party? know this would happen, he's just not used to having to work with people to do politics.

Not quite, but it appears the bill failed because moderate Republicans thought it went too far and ultra conservative Republicans thought it didn't do enough, meaning both refused to support it. Despite being in control of both houses and the Presidency it appears the Republicans are not as united as they've been making out. As much as it is a defeat for Trump it is also pretty disastrous for the Leader of the Houses, Paul Ryan.

Stat Brother · Mar 25, 2017

Theatre of Trees said:
Not quite, but it appears the bill failed because moderate Republicans thought it went too far and ultra conservative Republicans thought it didn't do enough, meaning both refused to support it. Despite being in control of both houses and the Presidency it appears the Republicans are not as united as they've been making out. As much as it is a defeat for Trump it is also pretty disastrous for the Leader of the Houses, Paul Ryan.

But more worryingly for the politicians, it's been a massive victory for the electorate.

The senators love their 'Town Hall meetings', sit and pay lip service to a handful of people either blowing smoke or moaning about a tree.
Not this time, not about Obamacare.

It's quite refreshing to YouTube 'town hall meetings on obamacare' and watch senator after senator all but running for their lives.

This fella is hopelessly out of his depth:-

Even with such a large majority throughout government the Republican party is going to struggle biggly time, going forward, as their senators know they can't put a foot wrong or else the chants of 'your last term, your last term' will ring true..

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