alfredmizen
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Been there 4 times , first 2 times immigration were so unsmiling and hostile i felt like turning round and getting back on the plane .
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[Politics] The Friday debate - Would you give up your UK passport?
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Been there 4 times , first 2 times immigration were so unsmiling and hostile i felt like turning round and getting back on the plane .
alfredmizen
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alfredmizen
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hows he a hypocrite ? Their mum is German.
Neville's Breakfast
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You can work in a different country without giving up a British passport and taking a new one. I have done so in three stints working abroad. My reference to capitalism was the idea expressed on this thread that people would make their passport decision basis whatever is in their best economic interest rather than see a British passport as simply a document that comes with their personal circumstances. A bit like choosing to support Man Utd because they win rather than your local/family team. These days a passport is actually rather more useful as it acts as an ID card. I have used mine as proof of identity for jobs and finance more than for foreign travel in recent years. To give it up for reasons such as 'not liking what it represents' or for the next job opportunity when that is actually unnecessary seems to me like cutting off one's nose to spite one's face or a rather pure form of capitalist self interest where people are willing to reject something given to them by society and for which many people abroad would literally die to have.
Anyway, interesting to exchange such differing views even if it is on a thread where the OP derides anyone in disagreement as believing in 'rule Brittania etc.'
I’ll just swap sides and get my Italian one ready. Ruskies don’t have any problem with Italy do they Veg ?
Neville's Breakfast
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or many readers of this thread haven't voted because of the patronising description of those who would vote 'no' ? who knows, who cares but don't be depressed about it.
alfredmizen
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how is that hypocritical ? their mum is german ,do you REALLY think he should totally change long held political views and alignment because of that ? childish if so.
alfredmizen
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he isnt saying anything of the sort , how on earth have you arrived at that conclusion?
alfredmizen
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thatcher emphasised self reliance , greed and selfishness ? grow up.....
The Spanish
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Great post (Neville’s breakfast) also though there is also an ideological element here where being ‘European’ implies a worldliness and cosmopolitan element to you when in reality the vast majority of British passport holders do not currently use their EU status for the benefit of free movement of labour. Brits working abroad are for the most part in former colonies that don’t allow them unfettered access but they still manage just fine.
Not many people are going to have their life choices dramatically hindered by any change in status, the current status is a very recent thing anyway and not taken up by the vast majority of British citizens.
Not many people are going to have their life choices dramatically hindered by any change in status, the current status is a very recent thing anyway and not taken up by the vast majority of British citizens.
alfredmizen
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plenty of british passport holders cant
alfredmizen
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quality stuff as usual
Two Professors
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No they are not.None of those are issued by 'Europe',so can't possibly be a European passport,they are British passports.
Thunder Bolt
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European passport is valid to work, holiday, and health in Europe, not issued by Europe. Stop splitting hairs.
Ditto
The Spanish
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It’s true mate as you know.. Most Brits go to work in these places they are not grape picking in Bordeaux even though you can drive there. The things that influence British migration for work are not defined by physical proximity but rather related to historical, familial cultural etc links to countries that are genereally not EU. There is no chance of that changing any time soon. No matter what a nice idea the EU is. This is not British exceptionalism or a desire to paint the world pink again it’s just a fact.
alfredmizen
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totally agree mate , getting off the subject went to bordeaux last year , lovely , lovely place , pains.me.to say it but we could.learn a lot from the french , im used to be a strong proponent of anglo.saxon capitalism , not so.sure now , how you keeping anyway ?
The Spanish
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France is a wonderful wonderful country - my idea of heaven is a marmite dieppois in dieppe or a weekend in Le Touquet (things I have done before and will continue to do after “EU” citizenship) doesn’t mean I have to subscribe to EU nationality to do so. I love a laksa in geylang but I don’t need a Singapore passport for that.
I can cut out ferry coupons from the Argus but Singapore airlines demand hard cash, but the point remains. When brexit hits, am I gonna get binned off at dieppe? I don’t think so.
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Two Professors
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How about a part of Europe passport (soon to be a smaller part),but issued by home country?
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Thunder Bolt
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How about a part of Europe passport (soon to be a smaller part),but issued by home country?
How about what? I cannot see what you are laughing at.