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What on earth?
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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What on earth?
Quite simply comparably our economy is the 5th largest economy in the world, its stronger compared to every other economy from the 6th downwards and not as strong from the 4th upwards.
Whats not strong about being the 5th largest economy in the World, if not why should we be expected to £12 billion over seas aid, why should we have been expected to contribute £13 billion to your beloved EU whereas other countries contribute significantly less, I cannot recall you ever commenting on these payments that would be astonishingly illogical if we were not deemed 'rich' by any measure you care to mention ......
"Largest" is a reference to the size, GDP, of the economy. This isn't a measure of strength is it? Big doesn't necessarily mean strong. For example if you start applying the size (GDP) to factors like capita the UK drops away quickly ie having the 5th largest economy doesn't mean as much if you have 60m people to service.
Without trolling your posts, I cannot recall you ever laying any blame at the EU, certainly not the power driver of Germany for the difficulties with Greece or the crisis of refugees from Syria, but somehow you can readily lay blame at the UK for nearly all of its actions towards those issues, it just seems you default position.
Lincoln Imp
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As I say, it was a quote. It has a ring of truth though - coming as it did from one of very few party leaders to have behaved with dignity and honour in decades. You obviously believe the predictions of a painless new dawn brought to you by our free-tradin', tax-reducin', asset-floggin' heirs to the Queen of South Kesteven though so good luck to you.
To be fair any of HT's post that predict UK failing seem firmly tongue in cheek.
Lincoln Imp
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That's like me saying my Skoda is better than a Porsche. It's bigger after all.
JC Footy Genius
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- Jun 9, 2015
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As I recall (in previous debate with HT) it was apparently all Greece's fault and the Greek people willingly voted for enforced austerity, mass (50%) youth unemployment, poverty/suicide rates rocketing, huge contraction in the economy etc etc
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I think you will find that our very good friends at Lehman Brothers did their best in the Greek tragedy.
I think in the context of what BigGully was trying to say, 5th largest and 5th strongest are interchangeable.
That said, I think people trotting out the fact that we have the 5th largest/strongest economy as proof that we will be well equipped to deal with Brexit are mistaken.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
If you look at the top 15 largest economies in that list, how many of them aren't members of Nafta or the EU? China's is bigger than ours Japan's is bigger than ours, India's is poised to overtake us. That leaves Brazil, South Korea and Australia in the list of top 15 industrialised nations that are probably in a weaker trading position than ourselves.
JC Footy Genius
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Nicely put. The IMF and EU also have walk on parts, need to work on their character names though.
Baldseagull
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Makes sense to me, well a Federation of states does. I do not get what is so scary about it for you.
Thanks. See [MENTION=5101]BigGully[/MENTION] I have posted comment about wider Europe and specially the "basket cases" you suggested. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I think this sums it up reasonably well (NSFW)
yxee
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Since things are obviously much better in Germany...
Lincoln Imp
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I didn't realise that Juncker was in Essex on the night in question. The worst of the migrant-bashing newspapers is surely the Express, which for day after day through the referendum campaign, and since, has run with inflammatory front page headlines. The editor could say, and probably does, that his newspaper has never suggested that English people attack foreigners. He's right, but he does stand guilty of helping create an atmosphere in which the dogs run wild. Other newspapers, including the unpleasant Paul Dacre's Daily Mail, aren't far behind.
Baldseagull
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I would like to see those stats, and the source, I wonder what the agenda was of whoever told you that?
As far as I can find out there are about 4500 EU nationals total in UK prisons, which if you take the demographics into consideration is about what you would expect.
If the prisons getting clogged up concerns you, ask the Forces to do a better job of preparing their lads for civilian life, 10% of prisoners are ex forces.
nicko31
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Well life will carry on, but its likely many looking to invest to the UK will hold off which is understandable, uncertainty isn't good.
Wow! I do not think this brexit will be painless. I do not think it will be quick. I do not think it's the promised land or the new Nirvanha. However I do believe in self control, determination and our own laws. The alternative? well I do not need to extrapolate on that load of trash in the EU commission. I am happy, contented and sure that we have hurt the EU with our decision. Win win, whether I am a political or royalist sycophant or not. That is irrelevant. The EU and it's ideals are buggered. It may take another 5yrs but the ideology will be irrelevant eventually. I am happy in the morning, are you? Good luck.