[Albion] Trains for the QPR match

Guinness Boy · Apr 19, 2016

Something is definitely up at Southern. They've had staff shortages for months. Working from home today luckily enough. That said, like [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] the trains have only ever let me down once getting to a game, though that was Forest. Because of that experience our group left earlier last Friday.

I expect it will take [MENTION=153]perseus[/MENTION] six hours again, presumably going via the discontinued Bramber branch line.

Hotchilidog · Apr 19, 2016

The problem on friday was due to the cancellation of trains. If the usual service was running, even with the short formation trains thre should have been no problem. Normally I leave work at five get to brighton around 6.40ish and then either end up on the 51,59 or the one just after 7 which gets me in before the game.

My issue with southern is that they know they are short staffed, and yet have no contingency plans for when they know there will be a heavy demand for services. I don't expect them to lay on extra trains, I know they can't do that. I do however expect them to have enough staff to fulfill the published timetable at peak times. They clearly do not, and I hope the club put in a delay repay for for friday.

WFH for me today though, I am taking no chances.

Herne Hill Seagull · Apr 19, 2016

Seeing the club's warning to get to the ground early tonight, and their announcement about the trains post-Fulham, they seem to be aware of the issue at least. But how many of us choose to get to the game as late as possible? To make a night game, I have to get permission to leave work an hour early and then take my chances with Southern, a company that should be stripped of its franchise for its incompetence on a daily basis, let alone for Albion games. I'd love to get there early but the more games that are played on midweek nights, the more times I'm going to have difficulty doing so.

Short of booking a half day for every evening game (permission for which depends on other people's holiday dates at work, and which can no longer reliably be done when the fixtures come out to get in first in any case), what else would they have those of us coming down from London do?

Bozza · Apr 19, 2016

Friday afternoon/evening involved a mini-pub crawl of the Albert, Lord Nelson, North Laine Brewhouse, BrewDog and Fountain Head before we went to the Station. We got there around 6:35, which should have been ample time, but it soon became apparent it wasn't going to be.

Tonight will be all about The Cyclist so we can keep a close eye on things.

Tom Hark Preston Park · Apr 19, 2016

tigertim68 said:
Let's hope the P&R buses from Mill Road work better than Friday , actually for most night matches this season they have not been good compared to previous seasons , not sure what is going on but there is just not enough buses to the Amex . it's not bad going back though

Further heads-up for tonight: Brighton Races is on today (first race 4.50, last race 7.50). Would imagine there will be some kind of pre-match impact on the Racecourse Park and Ride.

Edit: Just seen the other thread. No impact apparently...

http://www.northstandchat.com/showt...ride-for-QPR-potential-clash-with-horseracing

fosters headband · Apr 19, 2016

Tom Hark said:
Further heads-up for tonight: Brighton Races is on today (first race 4.50, last race 7.50). Would imagine there will be some kind of pre-match impact on the Racecourse Park and Ride.

Edit: Just seen the other thread. No impact apparently...

http://www.northstandchat.com/showt...ride-for-QPR-potential-clash-with-horseracing

It has to have impact with traffic queuing at Wilson's Ave lights for each race.
Maybe no impact on parking spaces but IMHO traffic flow will be a problem

8ace · Apr 19, 2016

fosters headband said:
It has to have impact with traffic queuing at Wilson's Ave lights for each race.
Maybe no impact on parking spaces but IMHO traffic flow will be a problem

Isn't it only races over 6f

fosters headband · Apr 19, 2016

8ace said:
Isn't it only races over 6f

You could be correct, but the three races in the hour leading up to the game starting are all 7f and over.

Official Old Man · Apr 19, 2016

Mithras was full early on Friday. I'm leaving home 30 minutes earlier today to ensure a smooth journey. May involve an extra pint but I'm with my Mum tonight so she'll make me behave.

pasty · Apr 19, 2016

After reading here about the balls up Friday night, combined with the balls up trying to get home from London last night, I begged and begged and have somehow managed to blag a WFH today. I simply do not have enough faith in Southern to get me from Victoria to Falmer in time for an evening kick off anymore.

Ernest · Apr 19, 2016

Guinness Boy said:
Something is definitely up at Southern. They've had staff shortages for months. Working from home today luckily enough. That said, like [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] the trains have only ever let me down once getting to a game, though that was Forest. Because of that experience our group left earlier last Friday.

I expect it will take [MENTION=153]perseus[/MENTION] six hours again, presumably going via the discontinued Bramber branch line.

Last week they emailed all Conductors telling them their jobs are no more and they would have to reapply for a new role 'On Board Supervisor' on worse conditions, Southern are now suing ASLEF over the 12 car DOO on Gatwick Express not to say the way they have p*ssed off all the ticket office staff with threatening their jobs too.

The problem is that the railway is an industry run by co-operation and unfortunately that has now gone, so where a driver in the past might hot foot it over to Platform 8 to get a football train out thus allowing the next train in and so on now he would take his break etc to the letter of the law and it doesn't take much as you know for the service to then fall apart.

dwayne · Apr 19, 2016

pasty said:
After reading here about the balls up Friday night, combined with the balls up trying to get home from London last night, I begged and begged and have somehow managed to blag a WFH today. I simply do not have enough faith in Southern to get me from Victoria to Falmer in time for an evening kick off anymore.

Really?

In the whole time we've been at the AMEX I've only been impacted once for evening games from London.

The 5.22 to Lewes works like a charm and then there's never any probs from Lewes

I've never had problems getting back to London ....

(Famous last words)

pasty · Apr 19, 2016

dwayne said:
Really?

In the whole time we've been at the AMEX I've only been impacted once for evening games from London.

The 5.22 to Lewes works like a charm and then there's never any probs from Lewes

I've never had problems getting back to London ....

(Famous last words)

I'm a bit later than that though. At 5.22 I am still on the tube from Tottenham Hale to Victoria. If I'm lucky I can sometimes make the 5.45 Gatwick Express

The Kid Frankie · Apr 19, 2016

With regards the Park and Ride @ The Racehill I don't think the race meet will affect the number of spaces available but surely the traffic getting there is going to be pretty mad? Top of Wilsons Avenue will be closed off for races and Falmer Avenue is always congested with football traffic at the best of times.

Giving serious consideration to parking on Bexhill Road in Woodingdean and walking it. Anyone done this?

portlock seagull · Apr 19, 2016

Herne Hill Seagull said:
Seeing the club's warning to get to the ground early tonight, and their announcement about the trains post-Fulham, they seem to be aware of the issue at least. But how many of us choose to get to the game as late as possible? To make a night game, I have to get permission to leave work an hour early and then take my chances with Southern, a company that should be stripped of its franchise for its incompetence on a daily basis, let alone for Albion games. I'd love to get there early but the more games that are played on midweek nights, the more times I'm going to have difficulty doing so.

Short of booking a half day for every evening game (permission for which depends on other people's holiday dates at work, and which can no longer reliably be done when the fixtures come out to get in first in any case), what else would they have those of us coming down from London do?

A predicament many of us out of Sussex seagulls face. We end up missing games and money because we have to have a season ticket. It's a lose lose. And still people make excuses for the train operator. Who I remind everyone WE PAY FOR A SERVICE!

Pogue Mahone · Apr 19, 2016

The Kid Frankie said:
With regards the Park and Ride @ The Racehill I don't think the race meet will affect the number of spaces available but surely the traffic getting there is going to be pretty mad? Top of Wilsons Avenue will be closed off for races and Falmer Avenue is always congested with football traffic at the best of times.

Giving serious consideration to parking on Bexhill Road in Woodingdean and walking it. Anyone done this?

Thank you for the heads up. I had no idea this was happening.

I will still do the P and R, though. I'll just approach it by driving to Rock Gardens and then up Pankhurst Avenue from Queens Park Road.

It's a nice walk from Bexhill Road when it's sunny and calm. Less nice on the way back in the dark, up the hill. It'll take you twice as long.

EDIT: twice as long as the P and R, that is.

S.T.U cgull · Apr 19, 2016

On a matchday i get the 5.30 Gatwick Express to Brighton and have time for a drink by the station before getting a train onto Falmer.

Only once have i had an issue making it on time which was due to a 'one under' (famous last words!)

atomised · Apr 19, 2016

The Kid Frankie said:
With regards the Park and Ride @ The Racehill I don't think the race meet will affect the number of spaces available but surely the traffic getting there is going to be pretty mad? Top of Wilsons Avenue will be closed off for races and Falmer Avenue is always congested with football traffic at the best of times.

Giving serious consideration to parking on Bexhill Road in Woodingdean and walking it. Anyone done this?

It's a pleasant enough walk. The footpath has made a difference. It's still a bit of an effort after dark but not awful

The Kid Frankie · Apr 19, 2016

atomised said:
It's a pleasant enough walk. The footpath has made a difference. It's still a bit of an effort after dark but not awful

The last few games I've ended up queuing for ages for the park and ride after the game. ****ing hate queuing so I would rather be walking because at least then I am actually moving.

Guinness Boy · Apr 19, 2016

Ernest said:
Last week they emailed all Conductors telling them their jobs are no more and they would have to reapply for a new role 'On Board Supervisor' on worse conditions, Southern are now suing ASLEF over the 12 car DOO on Gatwick Express not to say the way they have p*ssed off all the ticket office staff with threatening their jobs too.

The problem is that the railway is an industry run by co-operation and unfortunately that has now gone, so where a driver in the past might hot foot it over to Platform 8 to get a football train out thus allowing the next train in and so on now he would take his break etc to the letter of the law and it doesn't take much as you know for the service to then fall apart.

Thanks. I thought my opinion of Southern's management couldn't get much lower but I think it just has.

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