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No you don't. You know people who have said/believe they have seen ghosts.
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Do ghosts exist?
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Exactly.
Surrey_Albion
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Where the ghosts of all the bacon butties,hamburgers ect that have been eaten over the years or the ghosts of the Billions of dinosaurs?? The reason there's no proof of ghosts is because they don't exist, no life after death,heaven or god in my opinion so therefore no ģhosts either
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Quite. Billions and billions of past creatures, but no ghosts.
Indeed. Yet so many still think they do.
Pluckley - the most haunted village in England?
What did you see and why wasn't your experience concrete enough for you?
My Nan claimed to be psychic - with a hit rate of maybe 1 in 13 which basically made Obika/Best/Barn Door etc look positively prolific - but I'd still say she had something in her prognostications.
MattBackHome
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- Jul 7, 2003
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I love the idea of ghost prawns. Floating around the ether unable to get to the other side until they finish their prawn business.
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My main motivation for voting for the mantis shrimp in WHC the year it won was in the hope that winning would allow it to safely and permanently pass to the other side. I hope the little chap made it ok.
Raleigh Chopper
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Of course they exist, they are everywhere, has nobody seen Most Haunted.
It's been on for years now and each episode usually turns up a ghost or two.
The fact that the cameras have never actually shown one yet is just unlucky but there has been a lot of orbs, moaning, keys rattling, doors slamming and people suddenly going cold.
What more evidence do you need.
It's been on for years now and each episode usually turns up a ghost or two.
The fact that the cameras have never actually shown one yet is just unlucky but there has been a lot of orbs, moaning, keys rattling, doors slamming and people suddenly going cold.
What more evidence do you need.
Me and my Monkey
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Bacon butty ghosts?! I'm sorry, but this is getting ridiculous.
Me and my Monkey
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Lovely tale of teenage shenanigans, but you'd probably be the first to admit you'd all got yourselves completely spooked out before the fog incident (except for stoned guy). The spookiest part of that tale for me was the unmoving bar man. One of the Undead for sure.
Motogull
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Yup. I've got a slightly open mind but ultimately I think its bollocks. I had a feeling the fella I was speaking to was a bit of a story teller, but gave him the benefit of the doubt.
Seagull
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Not seen any objective proof of the existence of ghosts.
However the mind operates at many levels and humans appear to be pretty attracted toward mystical thinking. So for me "ghosts" are a convenient metaphor, an easily understood anthropocentric cultural idea that can be used to describe experience.
Having said that, at least 3 people I know well have described experiences to me that they attribute directly to ghosts or spirits. In these cases, at the very least, they seemed to have sensed unexpected and unexplained changes in energy close to them. I witnessed the effect of one of these instances, though I didn't feel it myself.
However the mind operates at many levels and humans appear to be pretty attracted toward mystical thinking. So for me "ghosts" are a convenient metaphor, an easily understood anthropocentric cultural idea that can be used to describe experience.
Having said that, at least 3 people I know well have described experiences to me that they attribute directly to ghosts or spirits. In these cases, at the very least, they seemed to have sensed unexpected and unexplained changes in energy close to them. I witnessed the effect of one of these instances, though I didn't feel it myself.
Arthritic Toe
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There's a good variation on this one where the Roman soldiers are walking waist deep in the road, and lo-and-behold, archaeologists then discover a previously unknown Roman road 3 feet below the surface.
The thing is this... Your (excellent) story has several possible explanations, each one has a probability of being true, ranging from highly unlikely to highly likely or anything in between. How you allocate these probabilities is highly subjective of course, but as with anything in life you base it on previous experience and weight of evidence. Here's some possible explanations for the Roman soldiers:
1. They were indeed on a re-enactment, and they had got together beforehand and for a laugh, had decided to jump into the bushes when a car passed to freak out the driver.
2. Your neighbour made up the whole thing. Maybe he just lies, or has an attention-seeking disorder that you don't know about (your probability here would vary depending on how well you know him, but for me - I don't know him from Adam).
3. Your neighbour was just mistaken. They weren't Romans at all - maybe just a walking group who had gone off on a path.
4. The Roman soldiers were ghosts
5. You misheard, or misunderstood your neighbour.
6. You have made it up.
7. Something else.
For me, number 4 only has a tiny probability of being the true explanation in relation to the others.
burnee54
East Upper Hermit
Ooh, nutter alert everyone, we've caught one! Could get entertaining from here.
I don't care what you say or think of me, the truth still stands.I have seen and heard things that cannot be explained or rationalised.
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I assume he meant the ghost of the pig the bacon came from.
No, it got ridiculous the moment a sane human said they believed in ghosts.
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You've seen and heard things that you've been unable to explain or rationalise.
The Kid Frankie
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'I'm not sure, they probably don't' is my answer. There is no conclusive proof that ghosts exist, nor is there proof that they don't. In this day and age how can there be in either direction? This is a subject matter that interests me greatly.
What interests me the most, is almost everyone has their own story or someone very close to them has had an experience. I really like and agree with [MENTION=4137]Arthritic Toe[/MENTION]'s list of explanations to explain the Roman soldier story. I have a colleague at work who regularly comes up to me and shows me YouTube clips of UFO's, ghosts, Bigfoot etc, always very interesting. But in every case he accepts 100% that it is real without truly thinking about it. We then almost always argue about the credibility of the footage, and my argument is always the same - what is more likely? A faked/CGI peice of footage of a Tudor era little girl walking down a corridor in a castle - or the long deceased apparition of a little girl appearing at that exact moment for the camera? 99.9% of all of the evidence on the internet is explicable in my opinion.
That all being said - the fact that there literally millions of stories and pieces of circumstantial evidence supports the possibility of ghosts existing. No smoke without fire and all that. I have personally had at least 10-20 very strange incidents happen to me that I would expect the average person to say '**** me that was a ghost...' In each case I have come to think that there was probably a rational explanation and I am more inclined to accept the rational theory rather than the 'dead persons spirit' conclusion.
Another interesting aspect to me is that I have spoken with people I have in the highest regard who are 100% convinced what they have seen and experienced WAS a ghost and there is no other rational explanation. My late father for example was a former serviceman, about as gruff and down the line as you could be in life - said completely unashamedly said that he and at least three other squaddies witnessed the full bodied apparition of a dead army officer walk through their barracks in front of them. I suppose even then you could attribute this incident to something more rational than a 'ghost' if you consider some less controversial but still un-proven ideas like Stone Tape Theory.
Bottom line is real or not it makes for some very interesting debates, and even more interesting stories. Would love to see a thread of ghost stories to read and contribute to on here.
What interests me the most, is almost everyone has their own story or someone very close to them has had an experience. I really like and agree with [MENTION=4137]Arthritic Toe[/MENTION]'s list of explanations to explain the Roman soldier story. I have a colleague at work who regularly comes up to me and shows me YouTube clips of UFO's, ghosts, Bigfoot etc, always very interesting. But in every case he accepts 100% that it is real without truly thinking about it. We then almost always argue about the credibility of the footage, and my argument is always the same - what is more likely? A faked/CGI peice of footage of a Tudor era little girl walking down a corridor in a castle - or the long deceased apparition of a little girl appearing at that exact moment for the camera? 99.9% of all of the evidence on the internet is explicable in my opinion.
That all being said - the fact that there literally millions of stories and pieces of circumstantial evidence supports the possibility of ghosts existing. No smoke without fire and all that. I have personally had at least 10-20 very strange incidents happen to me that I would expect the average person to say '**** me that was a ghost...' In each case I have come to think that there was probably a rational explanation and I am more inclined to accept the rational theory rather than the 'dead persons spirit' conclusion.
Another interesting aspect to me is that I have spoken with people I have in the highest regard who are 100% convinced what they have seen and experienced WAS a ghost and there is no other rational explanation. My late father for example was a former serviceman, about as gruff and down the line as you could be in life - said completely unashamedly said that he and at least three other squaddies witnessed the full bodied apparition of a dead army officer walk through their barracks in front of them. I suppose even then you could attribute this incident to something more rational than a 'ghost' if you consider some less controversial but still un-proven ideas like Stone Tape Theory.
Bottom line is real or not it makes for some very interesting debates, and even more interesting stories. Would love to see a thread of ghost stories to read and contribute to on here.
DumLum
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I totally understand this. People posting on here and saying we need Ashley Barnes back.
Wellesley
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That's the spirit. I've got that bloody Smoky Robinson song on my mind now.
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One rarely hears of ghost sightings in normally places. Most take place in spooky places at night where of course you are going to be hyper vigilant and jumping at shadows.
I'm sure believers would say because that's when you "tune in" but I would think mostly it's people working themselves up into a nervous state then scaring themselves.
I do love a good ghost story though. I saw a thing on YouTube in America of these two guys creeping around some backwood farm they freaked and drove off only to hear "a banshee/witch" screaming at them from the woods. Of course, it was all baloney but I was watching it at night on my own and I got myself very scared! It's all atmosphere, if I feel like that in my home it's no surprise people think they have seen or felt something paranormal when say, walking down a country lane at night after spending the night down the boozer.
I'm sure believers would say because that's when you "tune in" but I would think mostly it's people working themselves up into a nervous state then scaring themselves.
I do love a good ghost story though. I saw a thing on YouTube in America of these two guys creeping around some backwood farm they freaked and drove off only to hear "a banshee/witch" screaming at them from the woods. Of course, it was all baloney but I was watching it at night on my own and I got myself very scared! It's all atmosphere, if I feel like that in my home it's no surprise people think they have seen or felt something paranormal when say, walking down a country lane at night after spending the night down the boozer.