If the other side doesn't believe that we are prepared to walk away then there's no point in starting negotiations. Without that option they can demand anything they like, knowing that they'll eventually get it.
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If the other side doesn't believe that we are prepared to walk away then there's no point in starting negotiations. Without that option they can demand anything they like, knowing that they'll eventually get it.
This car Jim................ what's the bodywork like ?
GT49er
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As opposed to nothing. The only thing it's opposed to is your wish to have the referendum overturned, and your continuing refusal to accept the result.
GT49er
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Because it's never been done before, there is as yet no empirical evidence that anyone can.
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I have read the Labour Manifesto, and it says they will ensure the country remains a member of the single market, but they don't actually tell you what they are going to do if we can't. They seem to have this idea that they can get a deal, they either don't understand how the EU works or damn well know they won't get any deal so they can eventually overturn Brexit.
Mental Lental
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I'll be voting from abroad using a proxy vote for the first time in East Worthing and Shoreham. Safe Con seat for Tim Loughton which means we get to look at his parliamentary voting record across the years.......
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10371/tim_loughton/east_worthing_and_shoreham/votes
What a grade A wanker.
In contrast, the Labour candidate is well..............an interesting character. Funnily enough her being a Bournemouth fan actually puts me off more than her being a fella....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...der-woman-football-standing-general-election/
Who is Loughton's main rival for the seat this time? Haven't really checked out the Libs one yet. I also see that UKIP weren't far behind Labour last time.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10371/tim_loughton/east_worthing_and_shoreham/votes
What a grade A wanker.
In contrast, the Labour candidate is well..............an interesting character. Funnily enough her being a Bournemouth fan actually puts me off more than her being a fella....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...der-woman-football-standing-general-election/
Who is Loughton's main rival for the seat this time? Haven't really checked out the Libs one yet. I also see that UKIP weren't far behind Labour last time.
It's like you'd expect for £600. What do you want for that sort of money? If you're serious we can talk about a price though.
studio150
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I have accepted the result its just leave voters don't like being told that the future won't be utopia
Hasn't Corbyn actually always been quite anti-EU? I'm not entirely sure, but I thought I'd heard rumbles before about his eurosceptic opinions. If that's true, which like I said, not sure, then why would he want that to fall through and overturn brexit?
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Great stuff on Victoria Live, the odious Tory Dominic Raab being torn to shreds as well as a Tory voter telling him he is switching votes to Labour as JC a better hope for peace and security
W.C.
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- Oct 31, 2011
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I'm sure the Tories will still win this but they've have been incredibly poor in this campaign. I'd come to the opinion that JC was pretty useless, but he's come out of it looking much better than 'Theresa May's Team'.
Could it not be the case that we end up with almost the same situation/majority we have now at the end of all of this?
Could it not be the case that we end up with almost the same situation/majority we have now at the end of all of this?
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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commentry on the leaked draft indicated they were going to have a redline on this, i.e. if they couldnt retain current access to the single market, they'd call it off. its been diluted, but this point is still there in principle. this make negotiations redundant as the EU just hold out awaiting the capitulation and continuation of UK membership (which they desperatly need to balance the budget, as proven with the amount of money they want to try and extract).
What a dull sceptic life you must lead watching that shyte, I have this image of you watching this with your hands down you're trousers, I think I've just been sick in my mouth [emoji50][emoji50][emoji50]
glasfryn
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it was the Scots disabled girl who done it for him.................tore him to shreds its the first time I have heard him without being able to thread JC's name into the conversation.
another one who should not be allowed to go on the TV
Victoria Derbyshire kept saying our audience is a fair representation of the electorate. 
The very latest polls give the Tories and UKIP combined the best part of 50% of the nation.
Even the BBC have admitted many a time that those selected or applying for these programmes lie about their voting intentions.
But these programmes aren't influential anyway. In a gathering of political scientists on Radio 4 last week, they universally agreed that those tuning into these programmes or leadership debates, have already made up their minds and the outcome is simply that those intentions reinforced.
The very latest polls give the Tories and UKIP combined the best part of 50% of the nation.
Even the BBC have admitted many a time that those selected or applying for these programmes lie about their voting intentions.
But these programmes aren't influential anyway. In a gathering of political scientists on Radio 4 last week, they universally agreed that those tuning into these programmes or leadership debates, have already made up their minds and the outcome is simply that those intentions reinforced.
Wrong-Direction
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- Mar 10, 2013
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I'd rather vote for hope than ultimate failure
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Lincoln Imp
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They. Do. Not. Know. How. You. Voted.
It is very simple. If you once gave a canvasser a clear impression that you were going to vote for (say) UKIP and by 9.30 on election evening hadn't shown up at the polling station then the local UKIP machine might send a car round to give you a lift to the station, hoping that you might vote as you intimated. There is nothing more to it than that.
If this happens, then how will May's position be tenable? She only called the election to get a bigger majority, and if this backfires - surely she couldn't continue as Prime Minister as she would have lost all her credibility; much like Cameron and the referendum vote??
beorhthelm
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it was also to assert a clear manifesto mandate to pursue Brexit, so that the Lords cannot obstuct it.
And also to ensure that we didn't have a GE looming in 2020 if the Brexit talks weren't completed by 2019.