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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Or sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting 'PROJECT FEAR' - very mature :wink:

Or being so stupid to believe brexit wont happen and we will remain in the EU.
At least us leavers educating you to give up on that stupid standpoint won the day
Thanks for coming over to our side
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,110
Surrey
:lol: I can live with their moaning after we have left.They can campaign to rejoin when the implementation is finished if they want. Its pretty much given rejoining will mean no more opt outs and a fast track to having the Euro as we will already meet the requirements to having it as required on all new members in the TEU treaty, remainers forget that just because existing countries dont meet the requirements to join the euro it doesnt absolve them from their treaty agreement to join it.

Can they really predict a rejoin win to an ever increasing federal Eurostate with confidence?

Right there is a good reason for democratically campaigning NOT to go ahead with Brexit at all. You see this as being weasel of course, but that's because you're very thick.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patreon
Oct 27, 2003
20,938
The arse end of Hangleton
Or sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting 'PROJECT FEAR' - very mature :wink:

But I've not seen any leavers even suggest they've even blocked anyone, let alone keep going on and on and on about it.
 






ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,729
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Its pretty much given rejoining will mean no more opt outs and a fast track to having the Euro as we will already meet the requirements to having it as required on all new members in the TEU treaty, remainers forget that just because existing countries dont meet the requirements to join the euro it doesnt absolve them from their treaty agreement to join it.

Denmark isn't really relevant obviously, but when are Sweden, The Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and Croatia all being fast tracked to join the Euro?
 


Thunder Bolt

Ordinary Supporter
:lol: I can live with their moaning after we have left.They can campaign to rejoin when the implementation is finished if they want. Its pretty much given rejoining will mean no more opt outs and a fast track to having the Euro as we will already meet the requirements to having it as required on all new members in the TEU treaty, remainers forget that just because existing countries dont meet the requirements to join the euro it doesnt absolve them from their treaty agreement to join it.

Can they really predict a rejoin win to an ever increasing federal Eurostate with confidence?

Once we've left it will be completely pointless wanting to rejoin, as we will lose all the benefits we have now.
 




pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Right there is a good reason for democratically campaigning NOT to go ahead with Brexit at all. You see this as being weasel of course, but that's because you're very thick.

Ignoring the vote before its enacted is not democratic .....hope this helps
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Once we've left it will be completely pointless wanting to rejoin, as we will lose all the benefits we have now.

Light bulb moment for you and other remainers,

no wonder you refuse to want a second referendum on the final deal that includes trade but want a second referendum on the withdrawal deal that only has a outline framework of future trade.
 






Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patreon
Oct 27, 2003
20,938
The arse end of Hangleton
Denmark isn't really relevant obviously, but when are Sweden, The Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and Croatia all being fast tracked to join the Euro?

As you say barring Denmark, all those countries are obliged to join the euro but they will only join once they meet the criteria - I guess the EU learnt from their 'mistake' with Greece.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patreon
Oct 27, 2003
20,938
The arse end of Hangleton
Once we've left it will be completely pointless wanting to rejoin, as we will lose all the benefits we have now.

I thought two of your main issues were the loss of free movement and the health care card - we'd get both back if we re-joined.
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Denmark isn't really relevant obviously, but when are Sweden, The Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and Croatia all being fast tracked to join the Euro?

No worries s by that time we'll be experts (no - world leaders) in standing at the back of queues for trade deals!* ('You'll Always Find Us in the Kitchen at Parties')


*Ricardo's theory of trade argued that we should all specialise in what we do best and trade the surplus. So what do we Brits do better than anyone else in the world? We queue, that's what. So we have a comparative advantage in queueing and should leverage it to ensure national prosperity. Job done.
 




ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,729
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
As you say barring Denmark, all those countries are obliged to join the euro but they will only join once they meet the criteria - I guess the EU learnt from their 'mistake' with Greece.

Well you guessed wrong, as Sweden rejected Euro membership in a referendum in 2003.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,869
Crawley
If the political class bent over backwards to ignore the vote to leave why should 17.5 million leaver voters ever trust a vote on anything again. Why would 16 million remain voters trust democracy either if a public vote can be ignored.
Playing with fire and you don’t even realise it.

Ooh the irony.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patreon
Jul 11, 2003
59,198
The Fatherland
But I've not seen any leavers even suggest they've even blocked anyone, let alone keep going on and on and on about it.

I think this is because the 3 loudest voices, and I do not include you here, have nothing else going on in their lives; Brexit was their saviour and enabled them to finally be seen and heard. To put people on block will row back on this.
 






pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Denmark isn't really relevant obviously, but when are Sweden, The Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and Croatia all being fast tracked to join the Euro?

They dont meet the requirements to join the Euro yet, but they have signed EU treaties of accession for new members that require you to join the Euro when you pass all the tests.It can take years and years and years for the newest members. The UK would prob pass requirements straight away and be able to do the required stint in ERM II before dopting the Euro.
Its almost a forgone conclusion as a new member with no opt out this would happen to us

good to see you remoaners are considering the future of rejoining after we have left......the democratic option
 


WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patreon
Jul 10, 2003
25,662
But I've not seen any leavers even suggest they've even blocked anyone, let alone keep going on and on and on about it.

But there's plenty on here that will shout 'Project Fear' whenever they are faced with a fact they don't like.

I know from your previous posts (career wise) that you have a good understanding of some of the issues standing in the way of a 'no deal' on 29th March. But it's the little things that tip it for me. As I've mentioned before, when I was in business, I did a lot of work with Government bodies and dealt with Politicians (I'm only repeating it as it winds up [MENTION=5101]BigGully[/MENTION] so much) and I keep in touch with some of the people I worked with.

Now it's not confidential, but probably not widely known.

Since this Government got in with it's austerity measures, Civil Service contracts have been changed to 2 year fixed contract. The Brexit team, in the last year, have all been moved to full-time permanent contracts. What could it all mean :lolol:
 



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