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[Albion] Peter James’ “bomb at the Amex” fiction in Argus today



The Clamp

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His books are poorly written drivel. They are hugely popular. People are stupid.
 


maltaseagull

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There is also a sub plot of Roy Grace's first wife disappearing and his new love.


I've read several of his books, and there does tend to be a samey feel about the way they're solved. I really didn't feel like getting the 'latest' one after that as you knew what was going to happen, even thought it is supposed to be a crime mystery thriller.

I get them from the library :) Bad fan!
 


maltaseagull

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Nice guy I'm sure, terrible writer though in terms of storylines and writing style!

Each to their own.
Millions disagree.
I cannot bring myself to watch any of the soaps but that does not mean there is talent in the productions.
 


Lower West Stander

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Tolstoy? That’s like comparing Leon Best with Messi - and I’m not even joking.

Wilbur Smith is, imo, a far better writer than PJ - there’s no deus ex machina plot devices in his books, for starters.

Snobbery? Possibly so, but that doesn’t mean an assessment of PJ’s writing abilities as garbage is wrong!

Edit: “PJ is the Leon Best of authors” - Katie Price. I can see the blurb now...

Yeah, yeah - snobbery again :wink:

Totally disagree with you.

Opinions. Opinions.
 






AlastairWatts

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I've not read any of his books, although I suspect they are the sort of thing I'd enjoy.

I have, and although he started off well the 'series' has deteriorated to the point where they are, quite literally, drivel. My copies have all been donated to the Oxfam shop. Essentially he takes real life people and locations in Brighton & Hove, disguises them slightly an spins a murder mystery from there. Not worth a read, even at Oxfam prices...
 


Easy 10

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His books are poorly written drivel. They are hugely popular. People are stupid.

And there's the classic snobbery right there.

"I'm really clever because I'm one of the special people who can see that all his books are utter shithouse. Ergo, everyone who actually enjoys his books are stupid, and not as clever as me".

Its bollocks. You're presenting an opinion as fact.
 


The Clamp

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And there's the classic snobbery right there.

"I'm really clever because I'm one of the special people who can see that all his books are utter shithouse. Ergo, everyone who actually enjoys his books are stupid, and not as clever as me".

Its bollocks. You're presenting an opinion as fact.

You're probably right.
 




Brian Munich

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Jul 7, 2008
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Strikes me as one of the most spectacularly tasteless things I’ve seen about the Albion in a while. No wonder the Argus decided not to promote it on its front page, bet they had mixed feelings about it

You’re not the Albion fan on Twitter that tweets about Neighbours’ plot lines as if it’s real life are you?
 


mikeyjh

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Tolstoy? That’s like comparing Leon Best with Messi - and I’m not even joking.

Wilbur Smith is, imo, a far better writer than PJ - there’s no deus ex machina plot devices in his books, for starters.

Snobbery? Possibly so, but that doesn’t mean an assessment of PJ’s writing abilities as garbage is wrong!

Edit: “PJ is the Leon Best of authors” - Katie Price. I can see the blurb now...

Yeah, yeah - snobbery again :wink:

I'd say McDonalds vs a Michelin star restaurant is a better analogy - I mean, loads of people like McDonalds obv but few would argue that it isn't mass produced, the same food being churned out time and time again with slightly different labels. Going to that Michelin star restaurant (which I haven't), you know that you're going get something new and different that has had a lot of thought, time and design put in to it.

Only difference is, Peter James' books aren't dirt cheap.
 


Goldstone1976

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I'd say McDonalds vs a Michelin star restaurant is a better analogy - I mean, loads of people like McDonalds obv but few would argue that it isn't mass produced, the same food being churned out time and time again with slightly different labels. Going to that Michelin star restaurant (which I haven't), you know that you're going get something new and different that has had a lot of thought, time and design put in to it.

Only difference is, Peter James' books aren't dirt cheap.

Agreed - a much better analogy.

Although, I'm not sure why I'm responding to a post you've made - your dignity and good humour concerning the club you support's loss in the playoffs spoilt my schadenfreude. B'stard.
 




blue'n'white

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I've read all of them - I think they're good books. Entertaining for a summer holiday read. Seen the adaptations for the stage and they're usually pretty good too
 




tiberious

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I've not read any of his books, although I suspect they are the sort of thing I'd enjoy.

However: "But rapidly Grace finds himself entering a dark, criminal underbelly of the city, where the rules are different and nothing is what it seems." - hasn't Roy Grace been knocking about Brighton solving all sorts of heinous crimes for some time now? I would have thought he'd be well acquainted with the criminal underbelly of the city by now.

Dont be so sure.. I have and I am not a fan. If you want fact about how many roads there are and their names in a stretch of Marine Parade then his books are for you. Who do we know who is a gambler and goes to football and has a son ???? oh and maybe owns the Amex. not much imagination in my opinion just a change of certain real peoples names maybe ?
 




surrey jim

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Just finished 'Dead if you don't'. Whilst a good read, and enough to keep you in suspense does he have to name drop so many people and Sussex business' in there.

Seems to be 90% story 10% business advertisement
 




Notters

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This is one of the things I always find curious about his books - they're so parochial. He constantly references towns and street names throughout Brighton and Hove, so you always have a good idea geographically exactly where everything is. Which is fine for the likes of us, but all that would mean absolutely NOTHING to anyone who doesn't know Brighton and Hove. Unless they bought an A to Z.

Some herbert reading one of his books in Sheffield would probably wonder why the hell he's always being told various road names in Brighton.

Yes, i had assumed that they were only largely read by people in sussex. But they've had big billboards advertising them in Leeds station recently.
 


father_and_son

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His books are poorly written drivel. They are hugely popular. People are stupid.

People read different types of books for different reasons, so perhaps a little judgmental?
Sometimes choosing a book that doesn't tax the brain too much is exactly the target that, otherwise, very celebral individuals are looking for.

I have been known to read academic papers, text books, books on the specific syntax of certain languages, etc on holiday. But every once in a while I like to sit on the beach (or on a commuter train) and read a yarn about Jack Reacher because I don't have to engage my brain very much to read it - but I'm relaxing so that is the point!. The plots are simplistic, the characters two dimensional and the "twists" / "puzzles" are pretty well telegraphed in advance.
 




Fourteenth Eye

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Just finished 'Dead if you don't'. Whilst a good read, and enough to keep you in suspense does he have to name drop so many people and Sussex business' in there.

Seems to be 90% story 10% business advertisement


To be fair he does a lot of charity auctions where one of the prizes are to be a character in one of his books.

An awful lot of money has gone to very good causes for these mentions
 



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