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Trump, how long will he last?

How long will the Trump Presidency last?

  • End of the Jan

    Votes: 12 7.2%
  • A year or two

    Votes: 62 37.3%
  • Will lose in 2020

    Votes: 57 34.3%
  • Full 8 years, the Yanks will love him

    Votes: 35 21.1%

  • Total voters
    166
  • Poll closed .










The Maharajah of Sydney

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Jul 7, 2003
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Betting Market for Trumps Speech(Ladbrokes)

Got to lump on "Folks" at Evens I reckon.

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dingodan

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Feb 16, 2011
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As opposed to the safety Clinton provided the US ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens?

First US ambassador killed since 1979 under Clinton's watch. Yet people wanted that incompetent clown to be in charge of US safety?

And the whole time she was turning down requests for extra security for the embassy in Libya, she was signing off on $700,000 for shrubs for the U.S. embassy in Brussels and $5 million for new crystal ware for the State Department.Trump may not have been a great option as President, but Clinton would have been a joke.
 




Tyrone Biggums

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Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
Trump is a complete WEAPON and as soon as he realises that he can't just click his fingers and make stuff happen, he will chuck his toys out of the pram.

He's been doing pretty decent things with the automotive industry so far. Michigan voted him in and he seems to be rewarding them with giving a shit about their issues.

Unlike Obama who even though he was from Chicago leaves the city in a worse position than when he took over.
 




Tyrone Biggums

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Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
I expect that they will settle into a pattern in which the people around him will work steadily to de-regulate, enrich their supporters (a traditional GOP agenda) while DT provides a distracting sideshow. The biggest risk he faces is if/when the Russians overplay their hand with all the dubious financial stuff that they have on him.

You know what else are traditional agendas?

Republicans instigating and voting for civil rights issues in favour of the black community.

Democrats voting against civil rights issues against the black community.

Know your American history :)
 






Tyrone Biggums

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Jun 25, 2006
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Geelong, Australia
That's a ridiculous thing to say. It sounds very glib but not one of them resembles Trump in any way.

How do Washington, a professional soldier, Jefferson, an experienced legislator and intellectual, Lincoln, a fighter against slavery and a man who united the country and man of action Roosevelt, who fought against corruption and dodgy dealings, stack up against a draft-dodging, double-dealing businessman? Someone who has more bitterly divided the country than any other president

In one word, protectionists. Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Roosevelt were all nationalist protectionists. Just like Trump.

Here's things you might not know...

Teddy Roosevelt is most like Trump, rated in the top 2 narcissistic presidents in US history(along with LBJ) he was also big on protectionism and was a populist President.

Lincoln was also VERY big on criticising the press. More so than Trump, Lincoln actually threw some in jail. He was also big on internal subsidies and raising tariffs.

Washington like Trump had no great affiliation with any political ideology, he was a businessman. Another who was big on protecting local trade from foreign competition.

Jefferson the least like Trump was still a protectionist at his core as well(and a slave owner).
 






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Unlike the multi-millionaire business tycoon who inherited a real estate company, who shot to wider fame through a TV programme and has appeared in 12 films and 14 television series..

People seem to forget the numbers of jobs Trump has created over the years through his building projects. Some sections of the media tried to stitch up Trump throughout the campaign. The opposition did everything they could to try and condition people in to hating Trump, it failed and did the reverse. Give the bloke a chance, for all we know it might be good for America. People don't give a stuff about Trumps life, they just want a job, money and too move forward.
 
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People seem to forget the numbers of jobs Trump has created over the years through his building projects. Some sections of the media tried to stitch up Trump throughout the campaign. The opposition did everything they could to try and condition people in to hating Trump, it failed and did the reverse. Give the bloke a chance, for all we know it might be good for America. People don't give a stuff about Trumps life, they just want a job, money and too move forward.

There are SO many reasons why he is going to be absolutely terrible, not only for America but the whole world. He doesn't believe in climate change for example. Just for that alone how can he be taken seriously?
 


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Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ;7758110 said:
There are SO many reasons why he is going to be absolutely terrible, not only for America but the whole world. He doesn't believe in climate change for example. Just for that alone how can he be taken seriously?

Just because he says he doesn't beleive in Climate Change doesn't mean America is suddenly going to change path and break all it's promises, secondly there are countries and companies in the world that are doing far more damage to the environment than Donald Trump ever will.
 




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Just because he says he doesn't beleive in Climate Change doesn't mean America is suddenly going to change path and break all it's promises, secondly there are countries and companies in the world that are doing far more damage to the environment than Donald Trump ever will.

Well he has previously spoken about pulling out of the Paris Climate agreement so if that were to happen it would mean breaking America's promises.

The USA is the second highest produced of carbon emissions after China. The USA needs to work on greatly reducing it's emissions as soon as possible and needs a proactive President who will work to rapidly reduce the figures by investing in renewable energy, public transportation etc. Instead we have Trump who want to fire up the coal burners again and start building more cars :facepalm:
 


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Well he has previously spoken about pulling out of the Paris Climate agreement so if that were to happen it would mean breaking America's promises.

The USA is the second highest produced of carbon emissions after China. The USA needs to work on greatly reducing it's emissions as soon as possible and needs a proactive President who will work to rapidly reduce the figures by investing in renewable energy, public transportation etc. Instead we have Trump who want to fire up the coal burners again and start building more cars :facepalm:

I think we can all agree we need more renewable industries, but I really don't get the facepalm on Trump wanting to build more cars. This is the main reason countries like ourself and the US feel at a dead end because we don't manufacture enough these days.
 


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I think we can all agree we need more renewable industries, but I really don't get the facepalm on Trump wanting to build more cars. This is the main reason countries like ourself and the US feel at a dead end because we don't manufacture enough these days.

The face palm was more about the fact that Trump thinks Coal is the future. I agree with you about more manufacturing as a good thing, but it would be great to see America lead the way in environmental technology and manufacture in those areas rather than just rolling another bunch of gas guzzling shit mobiles off the conveyor belt.
 


Lyndhurst 14

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Jan 16, 2008
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People seem to forget the numbers of jobs Trump has created over the years through his building projects. Some sections of the media tried to stitch up Trump throughout the campaign. The opposition did everything they could to try and condition people in to hating Trump, it failed and did the reverse. Give the bloke a chance, for all we know it might be good for America. People don't give a stuff about Trumps life, they just want a job, money and too move forward.

He also left a string of bankrupt / unpaid building contractors (including on his new hotel in DC) - the billionaire Trump doesn't give a toss about the average blue collar worker in the States, as they will shortly find out
 




Tyrone Biggums

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Jun 25, 2006
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Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ;7758110 said:
There are SO many reasons why he is going to be absolutely terrible, not only for America but the whole world. He doesn't believe in climate change for example. Just for that alone how can he be taken seriously?

Real or made up?

There's so many reasons why he'll be better than Clinton, do they factor into anything?
 




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