Euro 2016 seedings: England, Italy and Wales could be in the same group

Wozza · Nov 17, 2015

... if I'm reading this correctly?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34844461

England in top seeds, Italy in second tier, and Wales in bottom tier.

There could be tears.

Papa Lazarou · Nov 17, 2015

Wozza said:
... if I'm reading this correctly?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34844461

England in top seeds, Italy in second tier, and Wales in bottom tier.

There could be tears.

There are tiers... 3 of them seemingly.

Wozza · Nov 17, 2015

Full list here:

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/finals/news/newsid=2305797.html#how+euro+draw+pots+could

Wozza · Nov 17, 2015

I'd fancy our chances in a group with Switzerland, Hungary and Albania - especially as some 3rd place teams will go through.

greyseagull · Nov 17, 2015

I'd fancy our chances against Italy as well.

Did I say that out loud?

Mellotron · Nov 17, 2015

Wozza said:
I'd fancy our chances in a group with Switzerland, Hungary and Albania - especially as some 3rd place teams will go through.

I'd rather one stronger team in our group. 3 easy teams doesn't sit well with me.

You can get through your group with 3 points, the way it's set up now.

I predict we sneak through the group with 1 decent win and a couple of wobbly draws/losses, beat someone like Russia in 2nd round then out to one of the big guns in the Quarters.

Yoda · Nov 17, 2015

Don't forget to add in Poland from pot 3

Postman Pat · Nov 17, 2015

Wozza said:
Full list here:

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/finals/news/newsid=2305797.html#how+euro+draw+pots+could

That can't possibly be correct, aren't Wales the best team in the world according to the ludicrous FIFA rankings!?

Herr Tubthumper · Nov 17, 2015

That theoretical group doesn't look too bad actually. Neither teams are that great; I can see Wales getting through quite easily.

Sheebo · Nov 17, 2015

So how are Wales so low on the 'UEFA national team coefficient ranking' yet so high on the other one - bizaare?

We fully deserve our spot in the top pot on recent qualification campaigns although I don't fancy any of the other home nations from the pot 4...

Wozza · Nov 17, 2015

sheebo said:
So how are Wales so low on the 'UEFA national team coefficient ranking' yet so high on the other one - bizaare?

Record in previous Euro tournament finals? (None)

Trufflehound · Nov 17, 2015

Wozza said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34844461

What this story appears to be revealing is that some other teams have qualified for Euro 2016, and England have a chance of being drawn against some of them. Top reporting from the BBC there.

Wozza · Nov 17, 2015

CP 0 3 BHA · Nov 17, 2015

Both Irish sides and Wales in Pot 4 so expect lots of weeping and gnashing of teeth when they get the inevitable tough draws!

Herr Tubthumper · Nov 17, 2015

sheebo said:
We fully deserve our spot in the top pot on recent qualification campaigns although I don't fancy any of the other home nations from the pot 4...

It's a bit self-fulfilling though. Part of the reason England do well in qualifying is because they are seeded and shielded from the big teams. And by being shielded they are able to keep their seeding.

Icy Gull · Nov 17, 2015

Just getting out of our group in Finals is an achievement these days. How things have changed, we used to talk (optimistically) about winning these tournaments. None of those dreams now for second rate England.

Sheebo · Nov 17, 2015

Herr Tubthumper said:
It's a bit self-fulfilling though. Part of the reason England do well in qualifying is because they are seeded and shielded from the big teams. And by being shielded they are able to keep their seeding.

Fair point, although that's the same for any ranking system surely? Tennis, darts etc etc? We earned the right to be a top seed and have earned the right to stay there. (I'm not predicting us to do much at the Euros itself btw, unfortunately - but credit where it's due for the 100% qualifying campaign - no other team did that and the Swiss aren't a bad side at all)

Trufflehound · Nov 17, 2015

Icy Gull said:
we used to talk (delusionally) about winning these tournaments.

Corrected for you. :thumbsup:

lizard · Nov 17, 2015

How much did we have to pay to get seeded?

No corruption in football? Righty-o.

Kinky Gerbil · Nov 17, 2015

sheebo said:
Fair point, although that's the same for any ranking system surely? Tennis, darts etc etc? We earned the right to be a top seed and have earned the right to stay there. (I'm not predicting us to do much at the Euros itself btw, unfortunately - but credit where it's due for the 100% qualifying campaign - no other team did that and the Swiss aren't a bad side at all)

Don't get enough credit for not dropping a point, every thing is easy on paper.

Holland were top seeds and didn't get through, nor did Bosnia or Greece - Russia only came second.

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