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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
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Bwian

Kiss my (_!_)
Jul 14, 2003
15,898
# in denial
regards
DR


# in denial? No, I was addressing your error. A referendum is not legally binding no matter how many times you try polishing your Brexit turd.
 






Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,874
Crawley
It wasn't, and won't. You can quote me on that when the reality unfolds.
Just as the £4,300 could have got the leave campaign to talk about that, and whether it was really £4,300 or a bit less.

Why would all these stupid people from council estates be so happy for extra money to be spent on the NHS, despite the fact that they'd be getting £4,300 less to spend themselves? They really are a selfless, generous bunch aren't they.



The figure comes from Treasury estimates of how much smaller the economy would be if we end up with a Canada style free trade agreement, as opposed to being members of the EU, the £4,300 per household is what a 6.2% smaller economy in 2030 equates to. It is wrong to suggest each and every household will be hit by £4,300, and it is a loaded way of presenting the figure, but it is what the average would be.
We will never be able to accurately say how much better or worse the other way would have been in comparison to what we actually end up doing, but it has been modelled, and the 6.2% is the middle of the range for the reduced growth predicted from a Canada style FTA.
 


Gazwag

5 millionth post poster
Mar 4, 2004
30,093
Bexhill-on-Sea
On the train from Lewes to Falmer there was some double well 'ard, triple naughty, top boys from Chelsea. They were having a conversation about a game 'back in the day' in the 80's where someone got their throat slashed outside a pub - you'd have loved it. I couldn't quite catch all the details though.

And when he got to hospital he was treated by a British Doctor and a British Nurse
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,874
Crawley
Along with contributing on similar levels to us pro rata financially, that sounds fair enough. :thumbsup:

This is almost what happens, everyone contributes based on their GDP per capita, except we get a rebate, so everyone else contributes more pro rata than we do.
Then there is where the contributions are spent, and the poorer regions are receiving more inputs than the wealthier parts like us, as you would expect.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
69,893
Just when you think things couldn't get any worse, that pink-faced pig-f*cker Cameron - who landed us in this mess in the first place - feels emboldened enough to raise his ugly pink face. **** should be tarred and feathered and run out of town. ANY town.
 












Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Just when you think things couldn't get any worse, that pink-faced pig-f*cker Cameron - who landed us in this mess in the first place - feels emboldened enough to raise his ugly pink face. **** should be tarred and feathered and run out of town. ANY town.
Aye, Dodgy Dave is back and advising DisMay.
 




Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
23,104
Sussex by the Sea
I think we should have a second Chillcot enquiry, I was happy with last one..

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Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patreon
Jul 16, 2003
57,848
hassocks
Whilst reporting that some pro Brexit campaigners in yellow jackets were shouting misogynist stuff at Kay and that I was “not British” and “a rapist” ... well done all who helped create this situation. Good job.

Faisal islam from sky news
 


pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,256
Just when you think things couldn't get any worse, that pink-faced pig-f*cker Cameron - who landed us in this mess in the first place - feels emboldened enough to raise his ugly pink face. **** should be tarred and feathered and run out of town. ANY town.

You know things are VERY BAD when Dave is back in the picture.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
49,992
Goldstone
The figure comes from Treasury estimates of how much smaller the economy would be if we end up with a Canada style free trade agreement
That's the Treasury that want us to remain, and that were employed by the government to produce figures that supported the remain campaign, producing figures for a style of trade agreement that we won't get. It didn't have those caveats on the posters did it. They said we will be £4,300 worse off. We won't. It was a lie.
 




Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patreon
Jul 11, 2003
73,393
West west west Sussex
A short while ago:-

 


Bwian

Kiss my (_!_)
Jul 14, 2003
15,898
That's the Treasury that want us to remain, and that were employed by the government to produce figures that supported the remain campaign, producing figures for a style of trade agreement that we won't get. It didn't have those caveats on the posters did it. They said we will be £4,300 worse off. We won't. It was a lie.

Not looking for an argument-merely clarification:

What figures from which sources do you have that support your claims that "It was a lie"?

Whether you voted Remain or Leave-this is a Clusterfook of epic proportions and whichever side of the fence you sit on it is obvious that we are going to be worse off for a considerable period of time. Before the economy goes totally tits up (more than it has at the moment) wouldn't it make sense to put Article 50 on pause until ALL of the facts have been presented to us all? From Both Sides.

Let both sides present things exactly as they are-without the Bullshit. If Leave can show us exactly what will happen after March 29 2019 and that things will be significantly better than they are at the moment then you'll have won your argument for us to leave. Present us all with facts, nothing more, nothing less? No Coloured Unicorns for everybody once we've left/stayed. The situation we find ourselves in deserves a lot more than "Leave Means Leave-get on with it". As things stand right now we'll have no trade deals in place and a pound crashing through the floor much to the delight of Rees Moggy, Johnson and co. because they stand to make fortunes from their Hedge Funds at our expense.
 



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