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Bozza

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The ICM Guardian poll should be treated with caution, as it's markedly different to the majority of polls that have appeared of late, which either shows the Tories and Labour level pegging, or Labour pulling away slightly -- both of these scenarios will end up with Labour as the largest party.

The bookies must know something you don't.

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Herr Tubthumper

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beorhthelm

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Boon said the sample chosen looks “demographically sound”, but acknowledges there are signs in the raw data that this sample “could be a just touch too Tory”. In particular, there are more 2010 Conservative voters than ICM would ordinarily expect, and also more voters from the professional occupational grade.

er, isnt the point of polling to find out how many people hold a view, not try to match it to an expectation? obviously the ICM poll is an outlyer, but with the contrast to the betting markets, the UKIP and SNP factors, one does wonder how accurate they are at the moment. what could cause this demographic shift? clue might be in the point about professionals in the the sample, alot of office people off last week, gives some weight to the argument that polling doesnt pickup Tory voters well as they are at work.
 








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Bozza

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You do realise [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] that most seats and who forms the next government are 2 completely different things?

Yes, yes I do. I was responding to a specific point about Labour getting most seats - nothing more, nothing less.
 












Hampster Gull

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Nice to see Red Eds promising to sort out the countries finances. Trouble is this is the man who didnt even mention the deficit in his party speech, from a party that left a message when they left government saying that there was no money left and after they led the country into the worst financial crisis in 100 years. Hmz
 




Ernest

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Nice to see Red Eds promising to sort out the countries finances. Trouble is this is the man who didnt even mention the deficit in his party speech, from a party that left a message when they left government saying that there was no money left and after they led the country into the worst financial crisis in 100 years. Hmz

Try reading this

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/dec/29/labour-government-not-responsible-crash-bank-england-governor-mervyn-king
 


drew

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I made an absolute point not a relative but i can understand that may be confusing.

I'll explain. I never disagreed there was in fighting at the Labour party, especially the Blair/Brown issue. I just pointed out that you don't seem to accept that there is in fighting in the Tory party, and probably all of the parties.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Liz Truss, ffs, does she ever shut up?
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Nice to see Red Eds promising to sort out the countries finances. Trouble is this is the man who didnt even mention the deficit in his party speech, from a party that left a message when they left government saying that there was no money left and after they led the country into the worst financial crisis in 100 years. Hmz

You forgot to mention the gold.......yawn.
 




Machiavelli

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The bookies must know something you don't.

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You're bright enough to know that bookies odds are a reflection of what people have spunked their cash on, on a betting market like this. So, that's not a reflection of what the bookies think, but what punters think who have put money on. It just so happens that there are a certain group with large pots of cash going spare at the moment.

And while we're engaging in a conversation, are my suspicions about your voting intention still 'wild' and 'inaccurate'?
 


Hampster Gull

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Sounds like a man too keen to spread the blame as wide as possible. A Guardian article on the twenty five people who lead us into the financial crisis had Mervyn was on the list. According to them he refused to believe it was a crisis that would spread internationally when it first took hold, he refused to bail out banks initially arguing moral hazard and that the Treasury select committee said he should have done more.

Btw Brown was also the list. apparently he was dazzled by the city, applied light touch regulation etc.
 


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