W.C.
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US election (merged threads)
- Thread starter The Clown of Pevensey Bay
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oh yes, noticed that. A lot of people are going to need it.
So they voted for a more extreme version of the same thing with less equality?
Buzzer
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- Oct 1, 2006
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I think you would have had to be living under a rock not to be aware of Clinton's toxicity. She must be literally the only candidate who could have lost against Trump. Benghazi, emails, Whitewater, Clinton Foundation, ties to the Saudis, her legal career, her role in covering up her husband's infidelities, all those dead bodies of people who were poised to speak out against her, being fired from Watergate for being a liar...Trump may be the biggest liar ever to have stood for President but Hillary has to be up there too as just about the most corrupt professional politician.
If Trump wins as expected then Hillary Clinton must take a huge part in that blame.
I'll be totally surprised if that is what will truly happen. Trump will be all about himself and the Republicans that he appoints will decide the version of the government that the USA will have.
What are the odds that a guy who's been involved in around 3500 lawsuits in his life (source http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/) is going to survive for four years without getting impeached? I might stick a tenner on it.
severnside gull
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My daughter and grandchildren moved back to the States this year and were excited by their future.
Now the imminent return of isolationism will cause them to rethink.
More broadly I suspect the next decade will see an increasing migration of intellectuals ("experts") from the US.
They won't be coming here though. We have already committed to not allowing them.
So very sad.
W.C.
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I was just interested to hear what Soulman had heard, that's all.
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Mo Gosfield
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What a lot of people have chosen to ignore, both here re Brexit and over the pond, now, is that the world is undergoing a change. For a very long time the ruling elite have got more powerful and less interested in the welfare of the people they represent. They have relied on the passivity of the electorate, who for years have been seduced into thinking micro rather than macro. The ' I'm alright, sod the rest of you attitude ' and as society has been encouraged to become more selfish, more self-orientated, so divisions have grown into chasms. Whole communities feel cut off from the centres of power. They feel a loss of identity and a loss of self-esteem and self-worth. Anger and frustration grow and eventually it boils over into a massive protest vote.
Those that are happy with their lot see no need to change anything. Keep voting in the same elite, Establishment figures and the dinner parties, the holidays, the public education, the private healthcare and the golf and tennis club memberships can just keep rolling on. Clinton was seen as the Establishment figure. Happy to furnish her own nest to the tune of £150m, whilst displaying all the arrogant signs of an untouchable elite. Trump's outspoken honesty, however controversial and devisive it appeared, appealed to more people than the sleazy status quo of Clinton.
vegster
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Surely the billionaire mysoginist should be included in that ?
Mo Gosfield
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Wrong-Direction
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We can't really complain, we voted conservatives and Brexit.
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Agree with a lot of what you say, but struggle a little to believe that Trump and Farage are the men of principle to change this and lead us into a new era of equality
mikeyjh
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You do realise this isn't a football match or a Sunday night pub quiz don't you? It's not my choice but it you are going to crow, that's the sort of thing to crow about.
People are genuinely concerned about the impact of this election on the world, just like after Brexit, people are going to talk about their concerns and are not going to quietly disappear because they'll believe they're on the right sight of the argument but the wrong side of the vote. I realise you're probably on fishing trip but there you go.
I can say what I like! I'm not a British politician - I don't have to live with the consequences of my ill judgement. That's the point of this thread.
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You can treat freedom of speach with great responsibility or great stupidity - your choice
The phrase "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt" springs to mind...
studio150
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But you have to live with the consequences of the voters ill judgement.