[Albion] Duffy and Murray

ROSM · Feb 5, 2018

Bozza said:
Of all the players we have, Murray is one I feel will not be too fussed about what big Shane shouts at him.

I agree on your other point - Murray was exceptional on Saturday. 5 goals in 7 games in 2018 and up to double figures for the season now. Love that guy.

Usually i would agree but the thing on saturday was that for most of the rest of that half there was a difference in murray's body language. Shoulders were a slumped a bit. Rollockings are part and parcel of team sport. It happens i know and most pros do seem to just shrug it off (and its not like steele and williams in the goal mouth at old trafford in 79/80.

Machiavelli · Feb 5, 2018

Mo Gosfield said:
Ironic that he is lambasting a player on top of his game at present, when he has allowed his own high standards to slip rather badly in recent weeks, putting his own CB partner under a huge amount of pressure. He needs to concentrate himself on doing the basic things right, rather than over ambitious charges up field, followed by the inevitable pass straight to the opposition. Or losing concentration at set-pieces and allowing free headers ( happened again Saturday and we got away with it )

Quite frankly, based on some of his recent performances, he was lucky to retain his place in the side. Goldson has impressed the brief occasions he has featured. He is younger, more mobile and reads the game well. Duffy has eye catching power in his headed clearances and throws his body on the line, similarly to Dunk. He played better on Saturday but his immobility at this level, still worries me.

Agree with the thrust of this. I'd add that it annoys me that he fails to direct his headers sufficiently well; he should be using it as one of the strings of his passing bow.

Wardy's twin · Feb 5, 2018

well whatever happened it ended up in a good result

Mo Gosfield · Feb 5, 2018

Machiavelli said:
Agree with the thrust of this. I'd add that it annoys me that he fails to direct his headers sufficiently well; he should be using it as one of the strings of his passing bow.

Yes.
There appears to be more concentration on pure power, rather than accuracy. A nicely cushioned header to one of his own players, fifteen yards away is preferable to a massive launch 35-40 yards upfield, that goes straight to the opposition and thus comes straight back at us again.

jasetheace · Feb 5, 2018

Didn't really see a change of "aura" around Glenn after this. In fact my nose is still bleeding at the incredible shift that Muzza put in!

Tim Over Whelmed · Feb 5, 2018

Murray isn't a smiler on or off the pitch, he's a pro and would have thought let Duffy have a rant and we can all get back to the game, nothing to see here!

Papa Lazarou · Feb 5, 2018

I'm not sure where the view that Duffy had a bad game on Saturday has come from. He was very good. I suppose it's the same mentality that says that Gaetan Bong is shit every game, irrespective of how he ACTUALLY plays. I can it Dean Wilkins syndrome.

Lincoln Imp · Feb 5, 2018

Ninja Elephant said:
Remember when Tommy Fraser was laying into Murray for not chasing Fabian Delph for The Leeds United's 3rd goal at Withdean when Micky Adams was manager?

As has been said, Murray wasn't fit then. I'm pleased in a way because Delph's goal was my favourite opposite strike at Withdean. Furious at the time but looking back...

Tom Hark Preston Park · Feb 5, 2018

Evens itself out no? Murray had a right go at Knocky after he'd selfishly squandered about three or four first half chances.

Pavilionaire · Feb 5, 2018

Next time Duffy comes forward for a corner and fluffs his lines I hope Glenn gives it to him with both barrels.

Bozza · Feb 5, 2018

Papa Lazarou said:
I'm not sure where the view that Duffy had a bad game on Saturday has come from.

Sitting in two different places as I did on Saturday I heard that Gross, Propper and Stephens were all poor and, of course, Bong was utterly shit.

For me, Knockaert was the only sub-par performance on Saturday.

Papa Lazarou · Feb 5, 2018

Bozza said:
Sitting in two different places as I did on Saturday I heard that Gross, Propper and Stephens were all poor and, of course, Bong was utterly shit.

For me, Knockaert was the only sub-par performance on Saturday.

And Wilkins. #FFSWilkins

Coldeanseagull · Feb 5, 2018

Bozza said:
Sitting in two different places as I did on Saturday I heard that Gross, Propper and Stephens were all poor and, of course, Bong was utterly shit.

For me, Knockaert was the only sub-par performance on Saturday.

So then oh noble leader, this bilocation of what you speak of, is this part of your omnipotency? :bowdown:

Cowfold Seagull · Feb 5, 2018

Tom Hark said:
Evens itself out no? Murray had a right go at Knocky after he'd selfishly squandered about three or four first half chances.

Indeed.

Nixonator · Feb 5, 2018

Machiavelli said:
Agree with the thrust of this. I'd add that it annoys me that he fails to direct his headers sufficiently well; he should be using it as one of the strings of his passing bow.

Indeed. Said this a while ago, trouble is we all love him for it. He seems to just dare himself to see how much distance he can get on an unchallenged header rather than direct it anywhere useful or bring it down and pass it.

Cowfold Seagull · Feb 5, 2018

Bozza said:
Sitting in two different places as I did on Saturday I heard that Gross, Propper and Stephens were all poor and, of course, Bong was utterly shit.

For me, Knockaert was the only sub-par performance on Saturday.

Whilst it's true that Knockaert missed a few chances on Saturday, it's also true that he did get involved in the game, was always looking for the ball, and never shirked. On balance l'd ratherm see him onn the right wing than Solly, if only for his total involvement in the game. Always a player too who can come up with the unexpected. It could quite easily have been Knocky than Izquierdo who came up with that wonder goal.

Bozza · Feb 5, 2018

Coldeanseagull said:
So then oh noble leader, this bilocation of what you speak of, is this part of your omnipotency?

There's two words there I don't understand. I'm going to guess you're making reference to sitting in two different places. If so, that's down to my daughter and [MENTION=236]Papa Lazarou[/MENTION]'s daughter playing musical chairs.

Mellotron · Feb 5, 2018

hans kraay fan club said:
Barely (both born in 1992). Certainly not different enough for one to be rated any differently, as some kind of 'prospect'.

Agreed. People always talk about Goldson as if he is about 21, baffles me.

Bodian · Feb 5, 2018

Tom Hark said:
Evens itself out no? Murray had a right go at Knocky after he'd selfishly squandered about three or four first half chances.

Was this before or after Duffy had a go at him? That is - was he annoyed and therefore taking it out on someone else??

Bodian · Feb 5, 2018

Nixonator said:
Indeed. Said this a while ago, trouble is we all love him for it. He seems to just dare himself to see how much distance he can get on an unchallenged header rather than direct it anywhere useful or bring it down and pass it.

But at least we're getting the head on the ball from corners now, and getting it outside the box!

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