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deletebeepbeepbeep · Feb 15, 2018

I absconded from NSC for a while but as I'm still in the Strava group, recent PBs are a 19:21 5K at Hove Promenade, and a 1:28 HM at North Ealing. Might be slightly ambitious but aiming for sub 3:05 at Brighton Marathon (for good for age at London). Currently feel a bit off pace.

Last BM effort was 3h 25m but have got a lot quicker over the summer and putting in the miles.

North Ealing is a really great race if anyone fancies a late summer HM.

big nuts · Feb 15, 2018

Ninja Elephant said:
I've taken this opportunity to update my own numbers.

Can you please update my HM Pb to 1:28:20.

Ninja Elephant · Feb 15, 2018

[MENTION=13836]deletebeepbeepbeep[/MENTION] - please add the numbers to fill in the gaps and welcome to the table!

NAME	SB	5K PB	AG	10K	10M	HM	M
Big Nuts	18:45	18:39	71.73%	39:09	1:06:45	1:28:20	3:15:59
Ninja Elephant	18:57	18:23	65.21%%	39:00	1:07:57	1:27:43	3:29:12
Deletebeepbeepbeep	19:21	19:21	%			1:28:	3:25
Mr Banana	19:57	19:57	65.41%
Complete Badger	20:02	20:02	64.29%	43:32	1:17:11	1:31:01
Curious Orange	20:07	18:36	68.85%%	38:31		1:25:24
Penny's Harmonica	21:28	20:10	68:71%	43:03		1:33:56	3:27:19
Seaford by the Sea	21:33	21:44	64.81%	46:53	1:29:21
Knocky	21:42	17:45	72.66%	39:52		1:34:00	3:50:49
Simgull	21:51	20:21	68:04%	42:45	1:11:46	1:38:14	3:44:28
GNT	22:05	20:20	74.5%	40:31	1:19:12	1:31:18	4:19:55
Greg Bobkin	22:25	20:54	60.45%	42:	1:13:	1:39:	3:57:
Left Back	23.04	21:02	63.95%	45:47		1:43:27
Anchorman	23:32	21:34	67.00%
Soistes	23:35	21:53	69.19%	46:33		1:47:22
Bob!	24:06	22:41	65.42%	45.39	1:16:42	1:44:21	3:53:35
Mr Blobby	24:59	24:59	58.57%	49:31	1:23:34	1:51:01	4:28:36
Artie Fufkin		18:40	%	38:42		1:24:18	3:12:23
Capricorn		17:23	%	36:55		1:23:20	4:41:29
Pembury		18.58		39.08		1:33:02	3:19:
Bad Ash		19:40	%	43:27		1:35:00	3:43:03
JoePrecious		19:44	%	46:19	1:24:08	1:38:13	4:04:30
St Leonard's		19.44	%			1:34:35
Hooky		19:52	%
Dazzer		19.57	%			1:36	3:43:
Guinness Boy		22:04	%	46:50		1:46:03	4:00:06
m20gull		26:15	%	57:32		02:07:07	5:46:02
Badger				39:06		1:38:48	4:01:25
Jonny Rainbow				41:43

knocky1 · Feb 15, 2018

Can't sleep with the table not fitting on the screen. Will delete some e's from the newcomer.

NAME	SB	5K PB	AG	10K	10M	HM	M
Big Nuts	18:45	18:39	71.73%	39:09	1:06:45	1:28:20	3:15:59
Ninja Elephant	18:57	18:23	65.21%%	39:00	1:07:57	1:27:43	3:29:12
Deletebeepbeep	19:21	19:21	%			1:28:	3:25
Mr Banana	19:57	19:57	65.41%
Complete Badger	20:02	20:02	64.29%	43:32	1:17:11	1:31:01
Curious Orange	20:07	18:36	68.85%%	38:31		1:25:24
Penny's Harmonica	21:28	20:10	68:71%	43:03		1:33:56	3:27:19
Seaford by the Sea	21:33	21:44	64.81%	46:53	1:29:21
Knocky	21:42	17:45	72.66%	39:52		1:34:00	3:50:49
Simgull	21:51	20:21	68:04%	42:45	1:11:46	1:38:14	3:44:28
GNT	22:05	20:20	74.5%	40:31	1:19:12	1:31:18	4:19:55
Greg Bobkin	22:25	20:54	60.45%	42:	1:13:	1:39:	3:57:
Left Back	23.04	21:02	63.95%	45:47		1:43:27
Anchorman	23:32	21:34	67.00%
Soistes	23:35	21:53	69.19%	46:33		1:47:22
Bob!	24:06	22:41	65.42%	45.39	1:16:42	1:44:21	3:53:35
Mr Blobby	24:59	24:59	58.57%	49:31	1:23:34	1:51:01	4:28:36
Artie Fufkin		18:40	%	38:42		1:24:18	3:12:23
Capricorn		17:23	%	36:55		1:23:20	4:41:29
Pembury		18.58		39.08		1:33:02	3:19:
Bad Ash		19:40	%	43:27		1:35:00	3:43:03
JoePrecious		19:44	%	46:19	1:24:08	1:38:13	4:04:30
St Leonard's		19.44	%			1:34:35
Hooky		19:52	%
Dazzer		19.57	%			1:36	3:43:
Guinness Boy		22:04	%	46:50		1:46:03	4:00:06
m20gull		26:15	%	57:32		02:07:07	5:46:02
Badger				39:06		1:38:48	4:01:25
Jonny Rainbow				41:43

deletebeepbeepbeep · Feb 15, 2018

Updated, I don't have a chip time for a 10k or 10 mile.

NAME	SB	5K PB	AG	10K	10M	HM	M
Big Nuts	18:45	18:39	71.73%	39:09	1:06:45	1:28:20	3:15:59
Ninja Elephant	18:57	18:23	65.21%%	39:00	1:07:57	1:27:43	3:29:12
Deletebeepbeep	19:21	19:21	67.79%			1:28:52	3:23:01
Mr Banana	19:57	19:57	65.41%
Complete Badger	20:02	20:02	64.29%	43:32	1:17:11	1:31:01
Curious Orange	20:07	18:36	68.85%%	38:31		1:25:24
Penny's Harmonica	21:28	20:10	68:71%	43:03		1:33:56	3:27:19
Seaford by the Sea	21:33	21:44	64.81%	46:53	1:29:21
Knocky	21:42	17:45	72.66%	39:52		1:34:00	3:50:49
Simgull	21:51	20:21	68:04%	42:45	1:11:46	1:38:14	3:44:28
GNT	22:05	20:20	74.5%	40:31	1:19:12	1:31:18	4:19:55
Greg Bobkin	22:25	20:54	60.45%	42:	1:13:	1:39:	3:57:
Left Back	23.04	21:02	63.95%	45:47		1:43:27
Anchorman	23:32	21:34	67.00%
Soistes	23:35	21:53	69.19%	46:33		1:47:22
Bob!	24:06	22:41	65.42%	45.39	1:16:42	1:44:21	3:53:35
Mr Blobby	24:59	24:59	58.57%	49:31	1:23:34	1:51:01	4:28:36
Artie Fufkin		18:40	%	38:42		1:24:18	3:12:23
Capricorn		17:23	%	36:55		1:23:20	4:41:29
Pembury		18.58		39.08		1:33:02	3:19:
Bad Ash		19:40	%	43:27		1:35:00	3:43:03
JoePrecious		19:44	%	46:19	1:24:08	1:38:13	4:04:30
St Leonard's		19.44	%			1:34:35
Hooky		19:52	%
Dazzer		19.57	%			1:36	3:43:
Guinness Boy		22:04	%	46:50		1:46:03	4:00:06
m20gull		26:15	%	57:32		02:07:07	5:46:02
Badger				39:06		1:38:48	4:01:25
Jonny Rainbow				41:43

Blue&WhiteSea · Feb 15, 2018

knocky1 said:
Twitter username is the giveaway [MENTION=11816]Artie Fufkin[/MENTION] . You're almost in the young whippersnapper class for NSC though. A respectable 72.8% at Cannons Park last August is your AG best a quick search tells me. Only season best times are added to the table so let us know when you do a 5k after all this marathon plodding.
Half marathon updates for [MENTION=4417]The Complete Badger[/MENTION] and [MENTION=474]Mr Blobby[/MENTION]

NAME SB 5K PB AG 10K 10M HM M
Big Nuts 18:45 18:39 71.73% 39:09 1:06:45 1:28:35 3:15:59
Ninja Elephant 19:00 18:23 65.21%% 39:00 1:07:57 1:36:07 3:29:12
Mr Banana 19:57 19:57 65.41%
Complete Badger 20:02 20:02 64.29% 43:32 1:17:11 1:31:01
Curious Orange 20:07 18:36 68.85%% 38:31 1:25:24
Penny's Harmonica 21:28 20:10 68:71% 43:03 1:33:56 3:27:19
Seaford by the Sea 21:33 21:44 64.81% 46:53 1:29:21
Knocky 21:42 17:45 72.66% 39:52 1:34:00 3:50:49
Simgull 21:51 20:21 68:04% 42:45 1:11:46 1:38:14 3:44:28
GNT 22:05 20:20 74.5% 40:31 1:19:12 1:31:18 4:19:55
Greg Bobkin 22:25 20:54 60.45% 42: 1:13: 1:39: 3:57:
Left Back 23.04 21:02 63.95% 45:47 1:43:27
Anchorman 23:32 21:34 67.00%
Soistes 23:35 21:53 69.19% 46:33 1:47:22
Bob! 24:06 22:41 65.42% 45.39 1:16:42 1:44:21 3:53:35
Mr Blobby 24:59 24:59 58.57% 49:31 1:23:34 1:51:01 4:28:36
Artie Fufkin 18:40 % 38:42 1:24:18 3:12:23
Capricorn 17:23 % 36:55 1:23:20 4:41:29
Pembury 18.58 39.08 1:33:02 3:19:
Bad Ash 19:40 % 43:27 1:35:00 3:43:03
JoePrecious 19:44 % 46:19 1:24:08 1:38:13 4:04:30
St Leonard's 19.44 % 1:34:35
Hooky 19:52 %
Dazzer 19.57 % 1:36 3:43:
Guinness Boy 22:04 % 46:50 1:46:03 4:00:06
m20gull 26:15 % 57:32 02:07:07 5:46:02
Badger 39:06 1:38:48 4:01:25
Jonny Rainbow 41:43

Any chance I can get in on this table action?
SB parkrun 18:53
5k pb 17:05 (did help that it was a track race!)
10k pb 36:53
10M pb 60:09
HM pb 1:22:39
No plans for the full marathon any time soon!

Miximate · Feb 15, 2018

Looking to upgrade my old 205 Forerunner watch but can't decide what's best. I do like to have some music to listen to whilst running, so perhaps something with bluetooth headset? At the moment, I wear the watch (to check pace and distance) whilst having my music (on my iPhone) strapped to my arm with wired plugs, but would prefer just one device

Budget is around £250

Any recommendations??

Badger · Feb 15, 2018

Miximate said:
Looking to upgrade my old 205 Forerunner watch but can't decide what's best. I do like to have some music to listen to whilst running, so perhaps something with bluetooth headset? At the moment, I wear the watch (to check pace and distance) whilst having my music (on my iPhone) strapped to my arm with wired plugs, but would prefer just one device

Budget is around £250

Any recommendations??

There are watches which you can store music on and use Bluetooth headphones but I'd steer clear. I used to have a Samsung Gear Fit 2, the music feature was good but the running features left a lot to be desired.

I'd recommend the Garmin Forerunner 235. I know a lot of others on here have got one and given positive reviews.

For Bluetooth headphones I highly recommend the Plantronics Backbeat Fit. They're by far the best headphones I've had for running. They don't block out background sound, don't fall out of your ears, and there's no wire to bang against your neck.

You could also get a cheap clip-on MP3 player instead of carrying an iPhone with you.

Greg Bobkin · Feb 15, 2018

knocky1 said:
Enjoying it while I can but aware that the aptly named achilles may need rest at any time.
I'd entered the BM but thought after trekking up mountains in Nepal in December may as well try the Moyleman as part of the training. [MENTION=24635]Greg Bobkin[/MENTION] will be raring to go at the start line but I plan to go off very slow with the plan of negative splits, despite Mt Caburn, and a 4'50ish time. The BM I plan negative splits again, no heroics and a sub-4. Plan B for both is to give up at 20 and walk......
Then it's triathlon training, weakest link relay and the summer Phoenix 10k will be my first race effort. Sure we'll meet up at a Parkrun soon. Good luck.

You can hold me back and pace me then. I've got to slow down at the start of races!

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deletebeepbeepbeep · Feb 15, 2018

Whilst the 235 is a good watch, I have been using mine for 2 years it's a bit long in the tooth now. I think it was releases in 2015, I would be tempted to read around to see if Garmin are updating the line in the next few months.

The only downside of the 235 is that I find the HRM useless as it just follows my running cadence so it thinks by heart beat is running a maximum even on slow runs. There are work around for that but I find the data to be so unreliable to be worthless, and it thinks I have a V20 of an 18 year old. If you care about that you could get a chest strap, or I hear that the fancy but stupidly expensive Bose sport and Jabra elite sport headphones have a pretty good HRM built into the ear piece.

E: this website says wait as Garmin have started teasing a 245 replacement.

http://gpsrumors.com

deletebeepbeepbeep · Feb 16, 2018

They do have a whole range of watches, the latest one is the '645' which is also the first with music storage. It is super expensive though (£400RRP).

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2018/01/garmin-forerunner-645-music-gps-watch.html

Ninja Elephant · Feb 16, 2018

I have the Garmin Forerunner 10 and I love it. :blush:

Some quick folks are coming out the woodwork here, all with an eye on the Weakest Link no doubt.

I might race for 5k SB #1 on saturday, or have a good go.

Guinness Boy · Feb 16, 2018

Catching up on the thread while waiting to go for an 8k hill run in my new trainers once I've digested a piece of toast and marmite.

I use a 235, I upgraded from the Forerunner 10 which did not last the whole of the marathon I ran, contributing to me missing sub 4 by 6 seconds. I think the HRM is fairly accurate IF the HRM on gym treadmills, obtained by gripping the bars, are also accurate. I work away a lot and sometimes have to resort to a quick half hour on the dreadmill to get anything in at all. Whenever I've checked my heart rate on the machine and compared it to the 235 it's matched exactly - the last time this Wednesday morning.

The issue I have had is that I've been through three of them already, two having to be replaced under warranty. Watch 1 died when I first got injured. Instead of wearing it as a watch I let the battery run completely flat and it just wouldn't charge back up at all when I wanted to wear it just as a watch / hrm / step counter. They sent me a replacement which went completely bananas almost immediately. The time would never keep to what was set despite being manual, the light hardly worked and the step counter was all over the place. Watch 3 has been with me since April last year and has been ok touch wood. If I was buying now though I'd wait to see if something better was imminent.

I find the table fascinating. I have an official chip time for 10 miles but I can't remember the seconds, only that it was 1hr 23 minutes and something in Bright10 in Oct 15. Looking at everyone's PBs that has done at least a HM and preferably a marathon it shows that either the Macmillan pace guide, which I've been treating as a bible, is way out or that people's 5k PBs and long distance PBs have been at completely different times. Even though I'm frustrated with my marathon time it actually indicates my HM and 5k bests should be a lot quicker, yet both were flat out (for me).

knocky1 · Feb 16, 2018

Guinness Boy said:
I find the table fascinating. I have an official chip time for 10 miles but I can't remember the seconds, only that it was 1hr 23 minutes and something in Bright10 in Oct 15. Looking at everyone's PBs that has done at least a HM and preferably a marathon it shows that either the Macmillan pace guide, which I've been treating as a bible, is way out or that people's 5k PBs and long distance PBs have been at completely different times. Even though I'm frustrated with my marathon time it actually indicates my HM and 5k bests should be a lot quicker, yet both were flat out (for me).

655th in 1:23:27. http://www.runbritainrankings.com/results/results.aspx?meetingid=149557&pagenum=3 I'll add when on desk top.
The pbs for many would be over the years plus maybe not raced but just done. My 5k was in 1995 at age 36, the 10k in 1994 was only second run in 15 years since school, first half marathon was 4 weeks training at 50 and first marathon and best at 55.

20 years between them all. Another factor is some runners tend to be better at shorter or longer distances. I'm definitely shorter, you're longer and our curves have met once already......

Guinness Boy · Feb 16, 2018

knocky1 said:
655th in 1:23:27. http://www.runbritainrankings.com/results/results.aspx?meetingid=149557&pagenum=3 I'll add when on desk top.
The pbs for many would be over the years plus maybe not raced but just done. My 5k was in 1995 at age 36, the 10k in 1994 was only second run in 15 years since school, first half marathon was 4 weeks training at 50 and first marathon and best at 55.

20 years between them all. Another factor is some runners tend to be better at shorter or longer distances. I'm definitely shorter, you're longer and our curves have met once already......

Cheers, I never would have thought the results were still available!

Had a good session up and down Chalky Rd / Fox Way today. Had forgotten how much fun going flat out down hill is.

knocky1 · Feb 16, 2018

Ninja Elephant said:
I have the Garmin Forerunner 10 and I love it.

Some quick folks are coming out the woodwork here, all with an eye on the Weakest Link no doubt.

I might race for 5k SB #1 on saturday, or have a good go.

Think I'll try Hove Prom tomorrow. 4mph wind, flat and 5 days rest all in favour. See if a steady effort can get an sb by 15 secs and move two up the table. Maybe lucky enough to see you and [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] trying to kill yourselves whilst [MENTION=13836]deletebeepbeepbeep[/MENTION] slips through.

Ninja Elephant · Feb 16, 2018

knocky1 said:
Think I'll try Hove Prom tomorrow. 4mph wind, flat and 5 days rest all in favour. See if a steady effort can get an sb by 15 secs and move two up the table. Maybe lucky enough to see you and [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] trying to kill yourselves whilst [MENTION=13836]deletebeepbeepbeep[/MENTION] slips through.

If the Big Fella is racing it, I might make my way down there! I was thinking about getting along to Hove Park, I've done the Prom three weeks in a row - but I could manage a 4th if there's a toe to toe race on offer. We've never raced a 5k, thinking about it.

Curious Orange · Feb 16, 2018

Guinness Boy said:
I find the table fascinating. I have an official chip time for 10 miles but I can't remember the seconds, only that it was 1hr 23 minutes and something in Bright10 in Oct 15. Looking at everyone's PBs that has done at least a HM and preferably a marathon it shows that either the Macmillan pace guide, which I've been treating as a bible, is way out or that people's 5k PBs and long distance PBs have been at completely different times. Even though I'm frustrated with my marathon time it actually indicates my HM and 5k bests should be a lot quicker, yet both were flat out (for me).

My 5k, 10k and HM pbs are all from last year if that is any help making sense of the table.

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