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e77 said:

Perhaps if we hadn't lost 19,000 Police in the last few years we might be in a better position? There are legal frameworks in place for monitoring people but we have lost eyes on the ground.

It isn't the nanny state, it is cold hard cuts to public services that many of the same people currently wanting to deport all Muslims probably celebrated.

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e77 said:

Perhaps if we hadn't lost 19,000 Police in the last few years we might be in a better position? There are legal frameworks in place for monitoring people but we have lost eyes on the ground.

It isn't the nanny state, it is cold hard cuts to public services that many of the same people currently wanting to deport all Muslims probably celebrated.

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GT49er said:

But let's face it, you don't want to see 'any evidence of that', do you.


Yes, those are fine words. They may even mean them. After all, Theresa May probably believes 'enough is enough'. Nobody's saying there aren't some decent moslems around. The big question is, how many?

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GT49er said:

There's an awful lot of what ifs in there.........................

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Mr deez said:

This is ridiculous, we've lived alongside them in harmony for many many years. There are 3 million Muslims in the UK, mostly born in this country. Deport to where exactly?. Yes there is a particularly nasty strand of Islam which seeks to attack others (including other Muslims) but it is clearly not all, else this would have been happening for decades.

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e77 said:

Perhaps if we hadn't lost 19,000 Police in the last few years we might be in a better position? There are legal frameworks in place for monitoring people but we have lost eyes on the ground.

It isn't the nanny state, it is cold hard cuts to public services that many of the same people currently wanting to deport all Muslims probably celebrated.

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e77 said:

Fair dos. Find me some quotes from a mainstream Muslim organisation supporting your case.

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

Sorry I am getting fed up with hearing its the cuts its the cuts its the cuts. Such an easy thing to blame? So cliche.

So you you get another 50,000 police? What's it going to change? Do you really think that would stop these attacks? Really?

Unless we assign one copper to each muslim under surveillance, what difference will it make?

Eight minutes from the first 999 call, to the three muslims being shot dead. I'd say that is pretty good, and no matter how much money we plough into it, short of posting an armed officer on the corner of every street, its not going to change anything.

You can have all the police you want surveying these people, but if they don't have the rights to do anything, why bother?

They are stopping some attacks happening, but no matter how many police we have, we will not stop this kind of attack from happening.

So can we stop with the funding cliche!! It's getting boring.

Maybe a better solution, is if these people are a known threat and under surveillance, take them off the streets. **** their human rights. I think people need to wake up to the fact we are at war with these people.

But no, once again we will light our candles, sing some songs, hashtag the hell out of social media, and tell each other how beastly they are and how is has nothing to do with Islam. We did last week, we will this week, and most likely will next week when it happens again.

The whole issue is now coming to a head. Its about time we took of the kid gloves, and take drastic action. Because if the powers that be won't take action, then the people will.

Enough is Enough, So let the powers that be, grow a pair, and do something about it. The time for talking is over.

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sydney said:

no way.....small percentage......the biggest mistake/masterstroke is allowing thousands of soldier like looking ,
Arab men off the boats in the Greek islands a while back ....where are they now .....they ain't there any more ...so where the feck are they....??

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GT49er said:

"You infidels will blame your foreign policy for the fact that we hate you. Your foreign policy is not our fundamental issue. We hate you despite of your military attacks. We hate you for what you are. We hate you for your lack of modesty, we hate you for your secularism, we hate you for your democracy and refusal to bend to the will of Allah. Even if you withdrew your armies from our lands we would hate you still."

That do you?

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Seagulltonian said:

The embarrassing conversations that need to be had are the one's with the arms seller's, that equip both sides to have this ever perpetual war that cost's money and lives!
But, as we are the 2nd biggest arms exporter in the world, do you believe that's really going to happen?

These wars we have in Muslim countries, to supposedly protect the innocent civilians from "despot dictors" are all a front to rape the country for it's mineral and oil wealth, that the Western society still needs to survive in this consumer-driven planet that we now live on!
We have been trying to enforce our will on them for centuries and centuries, remember the Crusades! (Well I don't personally!)
And now they're fighting back to impose Islam on us!
I really can't see this ending well.and that's the sad part in these supposed "Enlightened" times

If you haven't read "1984" by George Orwell, I urge you to do so, to see where the "Elites" are trying to push us

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

Sorry I am getting fed up with hearing its the cuts its the cuts its the cuts. Such an easy thing to blame? So cliche.

So you you get another 50,000 police? What's it going to change? Do you really think that would stop these attacks? Really?

Unless we assign one copper to each muslim under surveillance, what difference will it make?

Eight minutes from the first 999 call, to the three muslims being shot dead. I'd say that is pretty good, and no matter how much money we plough into it, short of posting an armed officer on the corner of every street, its not going to change anything.

You can have all the police you want surveying these people, but if they don't have the rights to do anything, why bother?

They are stopping some attacks happening, but no matter how many police we have, we will not stop this kind of attack from happening.

So can we stop with the funding cliche!! It's getting boring.

Maybe a better solution, is if these people are a known threat and under surveillance, take them off the streets. **** their human rights. I think people need to wake up to the fact we are at war with these people.

But no, once again we will light our candles, sing some songs, hashtag the hell out of social media, and tell each other how beastly they are and how is has nothing to do with Islam. We did last week, we will this week, and most likely will next week when it happens again.

The whole issue is now coming to a head. Its about time we took of the kid gloves, and take drastic action. Because if the powers that be won't take action, then the people will.

Enough is Enough, So let the powers that be, grow a pair, and do something about it. The time for talking is over.

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GT49er said:

Duplicate post.

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GT49er said:

Agree, sad as I will be to see the demise of many splendid C.of E. and Catholic churches which have served our community well for generations - and without producing Christian terrorists. It is a price we have to pay for years of excessive tolerance.

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sir albion said:

Many no doubt have made it here illegally and with 10's of thousands still fleeing into Europe it can only get far far far worse because Europe is to weak and naive to do anything about it.

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

So let the powers that be, grow a pair, and do something about it. The time for talking is over.

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The Clamp said:

We should bulldoze mosques. I'm not joking either.
Give them 48 hours notice and raze them to the ground. Send out a clear message. Islam is not welcome in the UK. It doesn't work and it's now time to go.

Will it end the problem? Not by a very long chalk.
Will it send a message? Yes.

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sir albion said:

Many no doubt have made it here illegally and with 10's of thousands still fleeing into Europe each week it can only get far far far worse because Europe is to weak and naive to do anything about it.

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