Lincoln Imp
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"Don't you know a gentleman always removes his hat indoors? Ignorant oaf..."
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[Politics] Brexit
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"Don't you know a gentleman always removes his hat indoors? Ignorant oaf..."
Great comment on FT.com (not mine, by the way....):
As I see it, Brexit derives its support primarily from the three intersecting sets of the old, the stupid and the poorly educated.
In the first instance, the old are dying off (and with them, electoral support for Brexit and for the Conservative Party), and their bigoted views are increasingly not being taken up by the younger cohort replacing them. The poorly educated will feel the ill-effects of the Brexit debacle in their pockets and redundancy cheques, will realise that they have been deceived and will not be so easily duped by the fascist, tax-dodging press barons and Tory looters in future. The stupid pose somewhat more of a problem, however. This is due to Dunning–Kruger type effects, where they do not even *realise* how stupid they are and hence will not be able to adequately process the unfolding collapse of the low wage, low skill, low investment, low productivity husk that is the UK economy (I would put a significant number of Conservative Party MPs into this category.) However, numerically the stupid are statistically unlikely to prevail over the medium term.
Accordingly, I see an impending economic collapse for the UK after a lost decade of hard-right Tory economic malgovernance. This will lead to a complete discrediting of their failed hard-right doctrine and pave the way for a move back towards a more centrist, social democratic programme, in line with wealthier, more successful countries such as Germany and the Nordics, and with the increased quality of life for the majority that this naturally entails.
As I see it, Brexit derives its support primarily from the three intersecting sets of the old, the stupid and the poorly educated.
In the first instance, the old are dying off (and with them, electoral support for Brexit and for the Conservative Party), and their bigoted views are increasingly not being taken up by the younger cohort replacing them. The poorly educated will feel the ill-effects of the Brexit debacle in their pockets and redundancy cheques, will realise that they have been deceived and will not be so easily duped by the fascist, tax-dodging press barons and Tory looters in future. The stupid pose somewhat more of a problem, however. This is due to Dunning–Kruger type effects, where they do not even *realise* how stupid they are and hence will not be able to adequately process the unfolding collapse of the low wage, low skill, low investment, low productivity husk that is the UK economy (I would put a significant number of Conservative Party MPs into this category.) However, numerically the stupid are statistically unlikely to prevail over the medium term.
Accordingly, I see an impending economic collapse for the UK after a lost decade of hard-right Tory economic malgovernance. This will lead to a complete discrediting of their failed hard-right doctrine and pave the way for a move back towards a more centrist, social democratic programme, in line with wealthier, more successful countries such as Germany and the Nordics, and with the increased quality of life for the majority that this naturally entails.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
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A silly/foolish person or a large diving waterbird according to my dictionary. The truth can be unpleasant at times.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
studio150
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Great news for all those that love tripe with stale bread and jam
http://uk.businessinsider.com/ex-sainsburys-ceo-justin-king-brexit-effect-supermarkets-2017-7
http://uk.businessinsider.com/ex-sainsburys-ceo-justin-king-brexit-effect-supermarkets-2017-7
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
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Thinks far left terrorist sympathisers shouldn't be allowed anywhere near power? Gawd bless em
Nice to see that progressive strand of lefty contempt for the Great British working class is still alive and well though.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Never been to Lord's?
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
'I'm going to thcream,and thcream,and thcream until I turn blue and have to go to hospital,if you donm't stop brexiting now'
Oh dear
.Had some bad news today,have we?Nasty government going to make you pay gig workers and zero-hours contracts the minimum wage,so you feel the need to strike out.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
This from somebody who couldn't even drum up the money to run Manor/Marussia F1 team,because business people know he's an idiot who runs things into the ground.
I see May realising she is on course for a disaster is trying to drag down the other parties with her.
I'll be shocked if any Join her.
Strong and stable
I'll be shocked if any Join her.
Strong and stable
It is slowly disintegrating - latest concession - we probably won't insist that the ECJ has no jurisdiction post Brexit: "European judges could continue to have sway over Britain for a “limited time” after Brexit, the British government has conceded, in a development that could pave the way for a softer exit with the UK retaining closer ties to the EU."
This is good news, by the way - not just because it facilitates a softer Brexit, but it also removes the threat to the UK's membership of the European Common Aviation Area. And that's important if we want to carry on flying to/from the EU post Brexit.
It won't be long before we're at the "Norway option". And then it'll be a short hop to returning to EU membership.
Happy Days!
This is good news, by the way - not just because it facilitates a softer Brexit, but it also removes the threat to the UK's membership of the European Common Aviation Area. And that's important if we want to carry on flying to/from the EU post Brexit.
It won't be long before we're at the "Norway option". And then it'll be a short hop to returning to EU membership.
Happy Days!
mikeyjh
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We're not leaving the EU any time soon are we - Not sure if it's tragic or funny. Or both. Definitely both if you're French.
Lincoln Imp
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I'd say half of Europe is laughing at us. The other just think that it is sad that a great country has descended to this.
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An open door to 500M people, and that doesn't include migration from outside the EU either. One day you will understand that the only reason our public services and housing are under so much pressure is due to there being too many people in this country, and it doesn't matter how much money our government puts in, it will never be enough. Over population.
beorhthelm
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for weeks commentators and back bench MPs have been calling out for some sort of consenus politics on Brexit, to be involved in planning. now an offer is suggested by the government, its rejected by Labour front bench and isnt a good idea anymore? opposition for the sake of opposition.
pastafarian
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No one has ever claimed we have lost our entire sovereignty, only you are implying this is what has been claimed. You alone, no one else at all.
If you give up sovereign law making powers to Brussels you gradually lose your sovereign law making powers, if you reclaim these powers and accountability back from Brussels and return them to the Uk you claim back some of your sovereign powers.
49% of Leave voters wanted to claim back and return more law making powers back to the UK. Its not a difficult concept to understand Dave, i know you are struggling to understand this and its all a bit confusing for you, but if you cant understand a leaver explaining it to you ask a remainer instead. They will tell you loss of sovereign making powers to Brussels is a good thing and is in the wider interests of pooled sovereignty and the EU.
Now ask yourself how its possible you can be so uninformed and not understand.
pastafarian
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I dont recall JC ever calling people mentally retarded,have you just invented yet again what people have actually said?
As for unpleasant Its quite unpleasant for someone to say ..... That most people arguing against the EU is just a cover for their deep distrust of foreigners.
I would have thought even you would agree this is an unpleasant thing to say, but if you did say it was unpleasant you would be contradicting what you have implied yourself in your own posts.........must be hard being a hypocrite.
She's an absolute joke.
4/10.