There have been far worse injuries than that caused by completely legitimate tackles. Like the one that put Liam Rosenior out this season for months. He had no complaints - it happens in a contact spot. It seems Mike Dean just doesn't like the sight of blood. People are going on about this like his leg was hanging off... it was only a nasty looking gash but nothing a few stitches couldn't sort in a couple of minutes, as was proved by his role in the celebrations.
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(Riverside) Mike Dean
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There have been far worse injuries than that caused by completely legitimate tackles. Like the one that put Liam Rosenior out this season for months. He had no complaints - it happens in a contact spot. It seems Mike Dean just doesn't like the sight of blood. People are going on about this like his leg was hanging off... it was only a nasty looking gash but nothing a few stitches couldn't sort in a couple of minutes, as was proved by his role in the celebrations.
I believe more and more with each of your posts that you're a whey faced poltroon from Selhurst.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Can anyone enlighten me as to why the referee would defer to his assistant when the referee was only four or five yards away?
Having come to terms with the decision I cannot understand Mike Dean's actions or thought processes at all. When you brandish a straight red you are ending a player's season with three crucial matches remaining.
It just seemed to be a series of incoherent reactions - picking the wrong card, doing nothing when it was knocked out of his hand then not picking it up, not waving the players away, calling on the linesmen for judgement when he was nowhere near the incident and not fit to make such a crucial call, then looking at the blood and showing a straight red. Totally bizarre bit of refereeing.
Having come to terms with the decision I cannot understand Mike Dean's actions or thought processes at all. When you brandish a straight red you are ending a player's season with three crucial matches remaining.
It just seemed to be a series of incoherent reactions - picking the wrong card, doing nothing when it was knocked out of his hand then not picking it up, not waving the players away, calling on the linesmen for judgement when he was nowhere near the incident and not fit to make such a crucial call, then looking at the blood and showing a straight red. Totally bizarre bit of refereeing.
OzMike
Well-known member
If he does ref the final and we are in it, he may feel the need to clear his conscious.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
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There is absolutely no way they can give him the final after yesterday, whether we are in it or not, surely?
Some sort of demotion would be more fitting, rather than giving him such a prestigious match.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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Stephens: "Ref, I got the ball"
Ref: "look at his leg"
The moment the camera caught that it was clear he has made his decision based on the injury.
So so SO weak. I can just for a header and land badly, breaking my ankle. no foul happened.
Ref: "look at his leg"
The moment the camera caught that it was clear he has made his decision based on the injury.
So so SO weak. I can just for a header and land badly, breaking my ankle. no foul happened.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Pity the opposition falling victim to Dean 'evening up the count'.
Being miked up doesn't help - if the linesman is talking in his ear it won't help the thought process - if he is saying its a red it puts doubts in his mind
No, it wasn't worth a card at all. What his leg looks like is irrelevant, because it wasn't Stephens' fault! Players get injured all the time, you don't send someone off every time someone's injured.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Look at the Harry Arter yellow yesterday and see there is no consistency
Arkwright
Arkwright
Dean was inconsistent the whole game, early on he tried to play an advantage to Boro and then went back to the original infringement which is fine but then just blew immediately for everything else.
A few times when our lads went down (it must be said easily) Dean waved play on, surely if he felt they were diving he should have booked them. The Boro full back had three not bad fouls but nevertheless fouls in the first half had surely should have been booked.
With reference to Stephens red card, from the stands my initial thought was it was a great tackle on 50/50 as he had done the whole game, yes it was hard but consider that both players had an exchange just minutes before I think that Dean and the linesman had presumed that it was malicious. To change from yellow to red on the opinion of the injured player and the linesman when Dean had the best view as he was closest was poor.
Last the offside rules are unclear however I was inline for the goal and my initial thought was it was offside when the freekick was taken, fine when he scored he was onside but an advantage had been gained by initially being offside.
If Dean is a Premier referee he is no better than any others I have seen this season which is disappointing.
A few times when our lads went down (it must be said easily) Dean waved play on, surely if he felt they were diving he should have booked them. The Boro full back had three not bad fouls but nevertheless fouls in the first half had surely should have been booked.
With reference to Stephens red card, from the stands my initial thought was it was a great tackle on 50/50 as he had done the whole game, yes it was hard but consider that both players had an exchange just minutes before I think that Dean and the linesman had presumed that it was malicious. To change from yellow to red on the opinion of the injured player and the linesman when Dean had the best view as he was closest was poor.
Last the offside rules are unclear however I was inline for the goal and my initial thought was it was offside when the freekick was taken, fine when he scored he was onside but an advantage had been gained by initially being offside.
If Dean is a Premier referee he is no better than any others I have seen this season which is disappointing.
My neighbour is an ex pro footballer who had his career ended in a very similar way I.e opponent got the ball and then him afterwards. His view - not even a foul. It was just a freak injury. It happens. Do we start sending people off for a clash of heads of one bleeds?
Seagull58
In the Algarve
You jest, of course. Do you seriously think there is any possibility of an arrogant, useless cvnt like Dean saying "Sorry, I got that one wrong"? The FA would never allow him to admit to a mistake in any case.
matthew
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Mike Dean was shit yes... But, we didn't deserve to win that game. Worst i've seen us play in sometime. Thar first half was maybe our worst of the season. I'm just thankful we have a second chance.
Seasider78
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- Nov 14, 2004
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First half was as expected we needed to dig in and stay in the game which we did and grabbed a goal. Momentum is a funny thing in football I don't think you can say we didn't deserve to win as we were not offered the chance to have a proper go for last 35min. No guarantees of course as equally we could have lost but that goal shook them and the ref then ruined what would have been a spectacular finish.
Finchley Seagull
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Frankly, this comment shows how ignorant you are. Nothing to do with the injury. All to do with the tackle. Ramirez came in late, not Stephens. Stephens clearly wins the ball and is in no way reckless. Not even a foul. And Ramirez's behaviour after e.g. shoving the yellow card out of Mike Dean's hand, and the fact he miraculously recovered for the presentation, show it was nowhere near as bad as it looked. Disgusting behaviour to get another player sent off. If I was a Middlesbrough fan, I'd be ashamed of Ramirez and keeping quiet, not heading over to Brighton forums to back up the sending off (despite a number of pundits on TV saying it was never a red card).
Finchley Seagull
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Personally, I think he's lying if he says the linesman told him to give the red card. As you say, why would you defer to someone further away when you are so close to an incident. It makes no sense. He saw the gash, reacted to Ramirez's actions and changed his mind and now won't admit it. Sad really.
Finchley Seagull
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Mike Dean