Stephen Ward - suspect we might know soon

Sheebo · Jun 4, 2014

He certaintly was desperate to stay. Source is v good (someone at the club who'd know) and also Ward himself - the way he said 'hope so' when I said I'd see him next season with a

sounded v sincere... Of course money talks so things may have changed like...

Machiavelli · Jun 4, 2014

AZ Gull said:
Perhaps you would like to enlighten us on how much we DID pay for him?

Don't you do the enlightening on such matters?
I do seem to remember that we paid a small fee for him, and was the only fee expenditure in the last summer period. But I might be wrong on this.

drew · Jun 4, 2014

Machiavelli said:
Don't you do the enlightening on such matters?
I do seem to remember that we paid a small fee for him, and was the only fee expenditure in the last summer period. But I might be wrong on this.

Wasn't he on about £14k at Wolves and we paid the whole lot during his loan period.

Machiavelli · Jun 4, 2014

drew said:
Wasn't he on about £14k at Wolves and we paid the whole lot during his loan period.

We were discussing Chicksen in that post. The recent report on Ward indicated that his salary at Wolves was £12k, so there's not a great discrepancy between the two. I don't know if we paid it all during the loan period.

AZ Gull · Jun 4, 2014

Machiavelli said:
Don't you do the enlightening on such matters?
I do seem to remember that we paid a small fee for him, and was the only fee expenditure in the last summer period. But I might be wrong on this.

To my knowledge, no figure has ever been publicly disclosed, hence my question (the Argus reported on July 15 2013 that we would pay "an undisclosed sum of compensation" - he was out of contract at MK Dons, but they were due compensation because of his age).
[MENTION=28911]spanish flair[/MENTION]'s comment was somewhat dismissive, and implied we had paid a decent fee for him - I wonder how he knows what this sum was?

AZ Gull · Jun 4, 2014

Machiavelli said:
We were discussing Chicksen in that post. The recent report on Ward indicated that his salary at Wolves was £12k, so there's not a great discrepancy between the two. I don't know if we paid it all during the loan period.

That same report (in the Express and Star) stated that we DID pay the full sum.

BensGrandad · Jun 5, 2014

Justice said:
Chicksen looks like he has some pace thought he played well against Derby to, deserves a run in the team.

Whilst not the sole reason we lost at Derby, Chicksen coming on at left back and losing Wards attacking greatly contributed to our defeat and the manner of it. I think that Chicksen has promise but is a long way off defensively to be our regular left back.

spanish flair · Jun 5, 2014

Machiavelli said:
Don't you do the enlightening on such matters?
I do seem to remember that we paid a small fee for him, and was the only fee expenditure in the last summer period. But I might be wrong on this.

I think we paid undisclosed fees for two players last season Chicksen and Stephens, all the others were free or loans.
For us to pay any fees last season you have to admit was unusual.

B.W. · Jun 5, 2014

Chicksen remains 'one for the future' for me. Fine as backup, but not first choice. We need to get Wardy on board.

keaton · Jun 5, 2014

spanish flair said:
I think we paid undisclosed fees for two players last season Chicksen and Stephens, all the others were free or loans.
For us to pay any fees last season you have to admit was unusual.

I'm sure we paid a fee for Agustein

spanish flair · Jun 5, 2014

keaton said:
I'm sure we paid a fee for Agustein

States here that he was a free

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23534228

I am surprised though, in checking that we did pay a fee for Chicksen they state he played 93 first team games for MK Dons, so he should be pushing for a first team spot if the quote from Burke is anything to go by in this report.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23314228
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25966161

Soulman · Jun 5, 2014

BensGrandad said:
Whilst not the sole reason we lost at Derby, Chicksen coming on at left back and losing Wards attacking greatly contributed to our defeat and the manner of it. I think that Chicksen has promise but is a long way off defensively to be our regular left back.

Considering for the Derby game we had no Upson, Greer going off very early, Ward moving to centre back.....Chicksen was on a hiding to nothing that day.

Machiavelli · Jun 5, 2014

AZ Gull said:
To my knowledge, no figure has ever been publicly disclosed, hence my question (the Argus reported on July 15 2013 that we would pay "an undisclosed sum of compensation" - he was out of contract at MK Dons, but they were due compensation because of his age).

[MENTION=28911]spanish flair[/MENTION]'s comment was somewhat dismissive, and implied we had paid a decent fee for him - I wonder how he knows what this sum was?

It was precisely this that I had in mind.

TSB · Jun 5, 2014

Not sure I entirely believe this, but:
http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2014/0604/sport/ward-in-dark-about-future-270893.html

seagullsovergrimsby · Jun 5, 2014

TSB said:
Not sure I entirely believe this, but:
http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2014/0604/sport/ward-in-dark-about-future-270893.html

Any incoming transfer activity is pointless without a manager in place to tell the media what a valuable asset these players will be to the club.

BensGrandad · Jun 5, 2014

Soulman said:
Considering for the Derby game we had no Upson, Greer going off very early, Ward moving to centre back.....Chicksen was on a hiding to nothing that day.

I agree it was a mistake by Oscar should have put Calderon in the centre and played Chicksen at right back and left Ward as he was but for me Chicksen is ok getting forward but has a lot to learn about defending before he is the regular left back.

Icy Gull · Jun 5, 2014

TSB said:
Not sure I entirely believe this, but:
http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2014/0604/sport/ward-in-dark-about-future-270893.html

I absolutely believe that we have made no effort to sign him as yet.

smudge · Jun 5, 2014

Hope he stays, pure quality. I rate Chicksen too from what I've seen, minus the Derby game of course, which wouldn't be fair on him considering the makeshift defence that day.

portslade seagull · Jun 5, 2014

Wages too much we seem to be doing the Crawley of the championship

Justice · Jun 6, 2014

BensGrandad said:
Whilst not the sole reason we lost at Derby, Chicksen coming on at left back and losing Wards attacking greatly contributed to our defeat and the manner of it. I think that Chicksen has promise but is a long way off defensively to be our regular left back.

Must of watched a different game to you then. Chicksen was covering a lot of ground that day mainly because we lost Greer. Ince should of replaced Greer, March to cover the Ince position. Garcia was very limited tactically.

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