Mo Gosfield
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[Politics] The Tories hit new LOWS with the Windrush situation
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Klaas
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What the **** does any of that mean? This is literally a story about unfairness.
What is fair about people losing their jobs over this issue?
BTW, I can't say I'm ashamed over this but it is embarrassing and the government should be held to account for what IS an absolute disgrace.
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pb21
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How do you define being British?
Come again? That's precisely what you wrote - that someone not born to 'two British parents' was not 'as British' as somebody who was.
There are no 'grades' here. You either are accepted and welcomed as a British citizen, or you are not.
alfredmizen
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Come again? That's precisely what you wrote - that someone not born to 'two British parents' was not 'as British' as somebody who was.
There are no 'grades' here. You either are accepted and welcomed as a British citizen, or you are not.
it isnt "precisely" what i said at all , i was questioning his assertion that they were as british as he was , i disagree.
You are hard work.
So you are confirming - your opinion is that a British citizen whose parents are both born British, is 'more British' than another British citizen, whose parents are not.
alfredmizen
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winding me up ? what on earth gives you that impression ?
pastafarian
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According to some the Queen is German.
How do you determine what British means with that sort of mental thinking.
alfredmizen
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youre even harder work , i am stating , that someone born abroad to non british parents will never , imo, be "as british as me".
I'm not sure anyone has suggested the Queen is out and out German - her family have a German heritage though, which is correct.
Thanks for confirming.
McTavish
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So you are saying that there are levels of being British. I always thought that you were British or not...
As you appear to be an expert on this could you let me know whether someone who has two British parents but is born abroad is more or less British than someone who has one British and one non-British parent but was born in Britain?
People have said it in jest in the past, but there's a world of difference between saying that and demanding that she produce proof of her right to remain.
Can't believe this debate is still going TBH. I haven't read any of today's posts (except yours!), but I can't believe the preceeding pages are all full of people queuing up to admit that the likes of Thunderbolt were spot-on.
alfredmizen
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so, i was an infrequent visitor to the goldstone , i went to withdean about twice , never went to gillingham , but ive been a season ticket holder for 5 years , by your logic im just as much a brighton fan as you right ?
alfredmizen
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in a word , no.
pastafarian
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hypocrites claim it to be so quite often
I'm not convinced that the logic translates at all. In fact that is a rather silly analogy to draw.
Being a fan of a football team is a status anyone can choose to confer on themselves - be they a TV watcher in Rawalpindi, or a fervent 40-year STH with the club crest tattooed on their backside. Obviously one could be universally accepted as a 'bigger' fan than the other.
Citizenship doesn't work like that at all. If two people have been granted British citizenship, then both 100% ARE British. If you want to talk about heritage, lineage, ancestry - those are statements of fact and nobody could argue with you.
pastafarian
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Unless you have dual citizenship where you are half British and half somewhere else
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