McTavish
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- Nov 5, 2014
- 1,562
Yep.."he's entitled to go down." NO HE'S NOT!
or the Alan Shearer special: "Well if the ref hasn't given a foul he has to book him for diving." UTTER BOLLOCKS!
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FA to approve retrospective action for diving
- Thread starter BBassic
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or the Alan Shearer special: "Well if the ref hasn't given a foul he has to book him for diving." UTTER BOLLOCKS!
Cheese Rolls
When clogged by a defender, you could be punished for diving out of the way. The FA acts;
A panel consisting of one ex-match official, one ex-manager and one ex-player will be asked to review all available video footage of the incident independently of one another and then advise The FA as to whether they believe it was an offence of ‘Successful Deception of a Match Official’. Only in circumstances where the panel are unanimous would The FA charge the individual concerned.
http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/may/18/fa-to-punish-simulation-retrospectively-180517
When clogged by a defender, you could be punished for diving out of the way. The FA acts;
A panel consisting of one ex-match official, one ex-manager and one ex-player will be asked to review all available video footage of the incident independently of one another and then advise The FA as to whether they believe it was an offence of ‘Successful Deception of a Match Official’. Only in circumstances where the panel are unanimous would The FA charge the individual concerned.
http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/may/18/fa-to-punish-simulation-retrospectively-180517
ThePaddy
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- Aug 27, 2013
- 799
They still get the yellow card though, as Sam says. If we're going to have punishments dished out retrospectively (which is fine) they should also remove incorrectly awarded yellow cards.
I'd actually like to see video replays for decisions as big as penalty appeals. But if we don't have those, it doesn't make it bad to separately try and stop diving. Both would be a good thing, whether brought in together, or one before the other.
Look at the video of Forestieri cheating, do you really not want things like that to be punished? Just having the rule in should stop things like that in most cases:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8INWgyWPGM
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
We can't exactly talk when we have Knockaert.......
Well, indeed.
SIMMO SAYS
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Kaiser_Soze
Who is Kaiser Soze??
- Apr 14, 2008
- 1,355
Where there is clear and overwhelming evidence to suggest a match official has been deceived by an act of simulation, and as a direct result, the offending player’s team has been awarded a penalty and/or an opposing player has been dismissed, The FA will be able to act retrospectively under its Fast Track system.
I can entirely understand Big Sam's frustrations. There are more holes in this stupid scheme than your average colander. If it was a dive that won the free kick for Pocognoli to beautifully score at QPR, it wouldn't be reviewed retrospectively. How is that even close to fair? Either you review all incidents of deceiving the match official or none. Fed up with all this picking and choosing.
I can entirely understand Big Sam's frustrations. There are more holes in this stupid scheme than your average colander. If it was a dive that won the free kick for Pocognoli to beautifully score at QPR, it wouldn't be reviewed retrospectively. How is that even close to fair? Either you review all incidents of deceiving the match official or none. Fed up with all this picking and choosing.
drew
Drew
SA is talking crap. There is nothing wrong with retrospective punishment for diving, it is far from utter rubbish. His beef is that there aren't other rules. One step at a time.
Herne Hill Seagull
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Just look at the examples from Scotland on the Beeb's website of players who were punished retrospectively for what is, to give it its proper name, cheating. If it helps get rid of that, then I don't see how it can be anything but a good thing. Even if it doesn't get rid of it, it at least metes out some kind of justice to the perpetrators. Allardyce against it? What a surprise from a man who acted as he did almost as soon as he became England manager.
Bad news for Rashford and Zaha, and therefore a blow to their complicit managers.
Good for football.
Over time the blatant cheating will diminish and bans will be rare.
Good for football.
Over time the blatant cheating will diminish and bans will be rare.
Reagulls
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- Jul 22, 2013
- 765
put that with the infuriating " he had every right to go down then" w@ankers!
We can't exactly talk when we have Knockaert.......
I just don't think you understand.
He only cost 2 mill.
maltaseagull
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dejavuatbtn
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This is a load of tosh.
If someone is found guilty of cheating retrospectively, fining/suspending them does nothing to help the aggrieved team. If the cheating resulted in the player's club gaining points, then they should forfeit these to the other side. This would then cause chaos.
The only way to deal with this is instatnt video replays and immediate action to identify if the player cheated or not. If they are guilty then it is an immediate sending off.
What does need sorting out though is "whatconstitutes cheating". I have seen loads of examples where players have jumped to avoid being clattered, or have slipped over, or tripped over there own feet when it was clear that it was accidental.
If someone is found guilty of cheating retrospectively, fining/suspending them does nothing to help the aggrieved team. If the cheating resulted in the player's club gaining points, then they should forfeit these to the other side. This would then cause chaos.
The only way to deal with this is instatnt video replays and immediate action to identify if the player cheated or not. If they are guilty then it is an immediate sending off.
What does need sorting out though is "whatconstitutes cheating". I have seen loads of examples where players have jumped to avoid being clattered, or have slipped over, or tripped over there own feet when it was clear that it was accidental.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Be nice if it applied both ways to the cheats who don't pay their bills and, at the expense of other teams who are not benefiting by going into administration every couple of years, attaining higher league status than that which is deserved. But I expect that you only approve of justice if it benefits your appalling club.
That clip should have led to a 10 game ban. He fouled him and then pushed him and got him sent off when all he did was get up. Amazing.
drew
Drew
It probably will never be perfect but what I think the FA should do is ban players for at least 5 games, possibly more. Then, in time, players will not be inclined to do it. As for you last sentence, if a player goes down to avoid a tackle or has slipped then surely a simple gesture to the ref to confirm they are not seeking an advantage then problem solved.
rocker959
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Agreed