[Politics] Brexit

cunning fergus · Jul 31, 2017

nicko31 said:
There will probably never be a more fortunate generation than the war babies / baby boomers, cheap house prices, pensions given out by people who couldn't add up, the NHS at its peak, 40 years of sustained economic growth, some people will never be thankful

June 2016, proved there will probably never be a more selfish generation. My days of respect for the elderly are over

You tend to write utter bollocks but you have surpassed yourself here. Not ALL the generation are better off, and whilst it is true that pensions in particular were better broadly this generation will die earlier and worked harder than their younger counterparts.

They also saved more as opposed to racking up massive debts, the generations of compulsive spenders are the generation you should be pissed off about, the children of the war babies are the nightmare generation. Much much more selfish.

Herr Tubthumper · Jul 31, 2017

pastafarian said:
You really want to stoop to that level by bringing in the death of Jo Cox and equating it to the immigration policy of Merkel that led to thousands of drownings........get a grip.
Are you seriously trying to absolve Merkel by bringing Jo Cox into the equation..........that is low by anyone's standards.

Please stop the faux outrage and answer the question. As I'm sure you understand the analogy. You do know the difference between the terms analogy and equate?

The Clamp · Jul 31, 2017

Herr Tubthumper said:
Please stop the faux outrage and answer the question. As I'm sure you understand the analogy. You do know the difference between the terms analogy and equate?

He got comprehensively owned on this thread a few day something ago and since then has avoided most direct questions and instead been coming out with more and more bizarre, unrealistic reactions to posts. In short, he's lost his crackers.

You'll notice a few of the staunch leavers are becoming quiet or weird as the reality of what they have taken part in dawns on them!

pastafarian · Jul 31, 2017

ManOfSussex said:
I wasn't suggesting that as I don't believe it'll ever get that far unless we make some major concessions and change our negotiating position and strategy for one of Johnny Foreigner has got to do exactly what we want because we're British and better than them and we had an empire etc.

Oh well, I trust Mr Barnier in particular to deliver his promise of a free trade agreement more than you.
Lets wait and see who is right

doesnt bode well though if you have no faith in your own chief negotiator.

cunning fergus · Jul 31, 2017

ManOfSussex said:
The British working class are going to get f*ked over by the Tory toffs and cranks who duped them into voting for Brexit slightly more than by immigration issues and the failings of The Home Office. Was non-EU immigration all part of this Blair conspiracy to f*ck over the British working class too? It doesn't matter - nothings going to change in the future in regards to immigration numbers.

You are really dumb, the British work class have already been f*cked over that is why they broadly voted leave. You want to indicate it will get worse, but they thought it couldn't get any worse.

Until you accept the 2016 status quo was shit you won't understand what Brexit was.....you are not alone with your piss soaked underpants, plenty think the same way.......but like you they are dumb and wrong.

There it is.

Billy the Fish · Jul 31, 2017

ManOfSussex said:
I wasn't suggesting that as I don't believe it'll ever get that far unless we make some major concessions and change our negotiating position and strategy for one of Johnny Foreigner has got to do exactly what we want because we're British and better than them and we had an empire etc.

Do you seriously believe this nonsense that you're typing?

I'm not surprised some of you are so bitter about the result of this is what you truly believe.

The Clamp · Jul 31, 2017

cunning fergus said:
You are really dumb, the British work class have already been f*cked over that is why they broadly voted leave. You want to indicate it will get worse, but they thought it couldn't get any worse.

Until you accept the 2016 status quo was shit you won't understand what Brexit was.....you are not alone with your piss soaked underpants, plenty think the same way.......but like you they are dumb and wrong.

There it is.

It's a shame they were lied to though because they voted to leave the only governing body that was looking out for them. Now there is nothing between the working class and Tory greed and contempt for the poor.

pastafarian · Jul 31, 2017

Herr Tubthumper said:
Please stop the faux outrage and answer the question. As I'm sure you understand the analogy. You do know the difference between the terms analogy and equate?

Is this going to be a lecture akin to simile and metaphor?
There is no outrage Tubby, there is no equivalence to the murder of Jo Cox and the disastrous policy of Merkel that aided drowning immigrants.
Ask as often as you want, i wont stoop to your level

CHAPPERS · Jul 31, 2017

cunning fergus said:
You are really dumb, the British work class have already been f*cked over that is why they broadly voted leave. You want to indicate it will get worse, but they thought it couldn't get any worse.

Until you accept the 2016 status quo was shit you won't understand what Brexit was.....you are not alone with your piss soaked underpants, plenty think the same way.......but like you they are dumb and wrong.

There it is.

I can't work out if you are stating that you believe the EU is the reason for this ****ing over of the working class, or that you think the working class blame the EU (rightly or wrongly), or that you think the EU was merely the scapegoat for them.

JC Footy Genius · Jul 31, 2017

Confidence in the City is high as job volumes rise by nearly a fifth after June's General Election

http://www.cityam.com/268762/confidence-city-high-job-volumes-rise-nearly-fifth-after

It looks like London continues to attract tech experts despite Brexit looming, new figures suggest, with the number rising since the vote to leave Europe.

The capital remains home to more tech developers than any other city outside the US, new data from Stack Overflow shows, with worker numbers up 11 per cent year-on-year in the 12 months to June.

This rate of growth was on par with Tokyo, Moscow and Singapore and slightly ahead of France, one of European cities emerging as a contender to London's status as a leading tech hub, with 418,000 developers working in the capital. That was behind only Silicon Valley and New York.

http://www.cityam.com/266746/tech-developer-numbers-rise-london-despite-brexit-but-tech

Herr Tubthumper · Jul 31, 2017

The Clamp said:
He got comprehensively owned on this thread a few day something ago and since then has avoided most direct questions and instead been coming out with more and more bizarre, unrealistic reactions to posts. In short, he's lost his crackers.

You'll notice a few of the staunch leavers are becoming quiet or weird as the reality of what they have taken part in dawns on them!

Funny you say this as I have noted a definite change in most of the more vocal of the Brexiteers.

But yes, making a low comment, and then reacting to an anology with outrage is, at best, the stuff of school playgrounds.

Herr Tubthumper · Jul 31, 2017

pastafarian said:
Is this going to be a lecture akin to simile and metaphor?
There is no outrage Tubby, there is no equivalence to the murder of Jo Cox and the disastrous policy of Merkel that aided drowning immigrants.
Ask as often as you want, i wont stoop to your level

Thanks. Your replies have comprehensively answered the question.

Text book timing with post #34490 [MENTION=33848]The Clamp[/MENTION] :wink:

CHAPPERS · Jul 31, 2017

JC Footy Genius said:
Confidence in the City is high as job volumes rise by nearly a fifth after June's General Election

http://www.cityam.com/268762/confidence-city-high-job-volumes-rise-nearly-fifth-after

It looks like London continues to attract tech experts despite Brexit looming, new figures suggest, with the number rising since the vote to leave Europe.

The capital remains home to more tech developers than any other city outside the US, new data from Stack Overflow shows, with worker numbers up 11 per cent year-on-year in the 12 months to June.

This rate of growth was on par with Tokyo, Moscow and Singapore and slightly ahead of France, one of European cities emerging as a contender to London's status as a leading tech hub, with 418,000 developers working in the capital. That was behind only Silicon Valley and New York.

http://www.cityam.com/266746/tech-developer-numbers-rise-london-despite-brexit-but-tech

Why not post the full articles?

cunning fergus · Jul 31, 2017

The Clamp said:
It's a shame they were lied to though because they voted to leave the only governing body that was looking out for them. Now there is nothing between the working class and Tory greed and contempt for the poor.

If you wee right the EU would not outlaw nationalised industry but they do......last week Macron nationalised some French shipyards to prevent them being taken over by the Italians. I may have him wrong as his CV is Tory but he evidently has some socialist balls. This policy of course was very popular in France but will put him in the dock in Brussels.

The working class in France, line their British counterparts know full well who will act in their interests and it is definitely NOT the EU. You are delusional if you think otherwise and all your subsequent posts should be attributed to madness.

ManOfSussex · Jul 31, 2017

cunning fergus said:
You are really dumb, the British work class have already been f*cked over that is why they broadly voted leave. You want to indicate it will get worse, but they thought it couldn't get any worse.

Until you accept the 2016 status quo was shit you won't understand what Brexit was.....you are not alone with your piss soaked underpants, plenty think the same way.......but like you they are dumb and wrong.

There it is.

I'm fully aware of the status quo issue in 2016 for many and the fact people voted for issues that have nothing to do with The EU. Nothings going to get better in the future as a result of this vote though and immigration numbers will not change for one. They were duped and galvanised into this vote by Tory toffs and cranks though who were harping back for a halcyon past that wasn't halcyon. There's no going back though, so whatever happens will unfold. I am pleased at least that this chain of events will inadvertently put Corbyn and co in power though, because at least the Tory toffs and cranks will be paying the price, politically as well as in tax increases, for this mess when they are.

The Clamp · Jul 31, 2017

cunning fergus said:
If you wee right the EU would not outlaw nationalised industry but they do......last week Macron nationalised some French shipyards to prevent them being taken over by the Italians. I may have him wrong as his CV is Tory but he evidently has some socialist balls. This policy of course was very popular in France but will put him in the dock in Brussels.

The working class in France, line their British counterparts know full well who will act in their interests and it is definitely NOT the EU. You are delusional if you think otherwise and all your subsequent posts should be attributed to madness.

Im not going over the figures and funding that the EU provides some of the poorest areas in the UK because I've posted them here before and they are readily available on the internet. Let's see who is mad when the reality hits those in the UK who voted away a substantial part of theirs and their children's present and future.
I find it genuinely heartbreaking that some of the poorest people in the U.K were lied to and fooled into voting against their own interests, all to satisfy the warped agenda of a ham faced , billionaire toff in London who promptly ****ed off when he screwed it all up.

pastafarian · Jul 31, 2017

Herr Tubthumper said:
Funny you say this as I have noted a definite change in most of the more vocal of the Brexiteers.

But yes, making a low comment, and then reacting to an anology with outrage is, at best, the stuff of school playgrounds.

And there is a definite change amongst the ultra remainers( i dont include you as an ultra by the way as you have accepted we are leaving)
You can definitely see a mood change as they have realised all democratic options to overturn the referendum have ended in parliamentary voting failure ( give Gina a medal) .
They are in the final death throws of despair, predictions are now more erratic than before,, they have resorted to the language of ten years ago with the labels of Little Englanders and racists. and you know they are close to failure when some as a last resort wish the country to implode economically as all their rational arguments have evaporated

Herr Tubthumper · Jul 31, 2017

cunning fergus said:
The working class in France, line their British counterparts know full well who will act in their interests and it is definitely NOT the EU.

Strange, as they have just voted in the very pro-EU Macron.

cunning fergus · Jul 31, 2017

The Clamp said:
Im not going over the figures and funding that the EU provides some of the poorest areas in the UK because I've posted them here before and they are readily available on the internet. Let's see who is mad when the reality hits those in the UK who voted away a substantial part of theirs and their children's present and future.
I find it genuinely heartbreaking that some of the poorest people in the U.K were lied to and fooled into voting against their own interests, all to satisfy the warped agenda of a ham faced , billionaire toff in London who promptly ****ed off when he screwed it all up.

This EU money you speak about.......where do you understand that they get it from?

Herr Tubthumper · Jul 31, 2017

cunning fergus said:
This EU money you speak about.......where do you understand that they get it from?

The 28 EU governments plus other nations who pay for access to various things. What do I win? And what's your point?

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