No but as I say, I'm talking about 300 tickets not 3,000!
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Arsenal away 1st October - ticket availability
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No but as I say, I'm talking about 300 tickets not 3,000!
Fingers crossed. nice cheap points.
Certain sell out if points awarded
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Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
How will holding back any tickets NOT penalise someone higher up in the loyalty points pyramid?
We all support Brighton in different ways but if you want away tickets for the big boys then really, first dibs should go to those who actually go to games.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. To be clear though, I'm really not advocating anything other than that, except for 10% of tickets.
If you had sufficient points to be in today's second tier for Arsenal, got given place 300 in the queue but just missed out because 300 tickets had been held back, do you think you'd be on here posting that it was fair enough as it gave others with less points than you a chance?
I'd venture that you'd probably be pretty pissed off to have missed out to someone, say, going to their first ever away game who was in their first year as a season ticket holder.
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
We've got 25k STHs. If just 10% of those apply for your lottery and an equal number of non-STHs then you will have 5000 people trying for just 300 tickets. And you think this will solve the non-existent problem of fairweather fans drifting away from the club because they can't otherwise get tickets to see Arsenal?
Nixonator
Well-known member
The problem is that the people moaning about not getting a ticket to the 'glamour' ties now (WITH SOME VERY OUTSPOKEN EXCEPTIONS) are generally the very same people who said 'nah' to those kind of games during that period and will say 'nah' again if/when we descend to it again.
On the face of it a lottery system seems a decent idea to be as inclusive as possible, but if you think about it … not only are you screwing c300 people or more who were next in line loyalty wise, but there are also no guarantees that the people who get them will be the ones who have supported the club for many years with genuine reasons for low points or new younger fans who have every intention of supporting us in the future through good or bad.
Nixonator
Well-known member
Plenty of locals the last few seasons, also seem to remember getting to Birmingham and back for less than £10 each just a few months ago.
So you should be fine.
- Aug 8, 2005
- 26,543
The new scheme is very fair, whether it is fairer than last seasons I'm not sure, but if you sit back from it and look it rationally then it really is only rewarding loyalty to the club. The combination of needing to have been a season ticket holder for some time together with having been to quite a few away games in the last few seasons must be the only way to do it.
Most of our group tick both of those boxes in that we have all had season tickets for many years and travel away regularly. We are therefore comfortably in tier one. However two of our group whilst being away regulars for a few seasons have not had a season ticket until recently. They probably feel a bit aggrieved that they are now second or third tier but provided they can get to a good number of games they should still be okay. So far they have still managed to get tickets to all aways other than Arsenal.
It clearly is working.
I still maintain what I said on a previous thread about this becoming a closed shop though as the maths suggest that if you are not in the third tier by now it will become increasingly difficult for you to get out of that into the top two tiers.
Most of our group tick both of those boxes in that we have all had season tickets for many years and travel away regularly. We are therefore comfortably in tier one. However two of our group whilst being away regulars for a few seasons have not had a season ticket until recently. They probably feel a bit aggrieved that they are now second or third tier but provided they can get to a good number of games they should still be okay. So far they have still managed to get tickets to all aways other than Arsenal.
It clearly is working.
I still maintain what I said on a previous thread about this becoming a closed shop though as the maths suggest that if you are not in the third tier by now it will become increasingly difficult for you to get out of that into the top two tiers.
ROSM
Well-known member
As someone who missed out on both watford and arsenal tickets i still believe the system is fair.
ATFC Seagull
Aberystwyth Town FC
I think that assumes that this buzz is going to continue past this season, which as I've said above I think is unlikely. Unless we do a Leicester, I think any subsequent seasons in the PL are going to see less fuss over away tickets which will give people who have narrowly missed out this year the chance to "get on the ladder". And if we go down, then people can go to as many aways as they like to build up the points for when we are next at this level.
Indeed - although I've been a STH at all three home grounds (not at Gillingham), and have never paid anything like £700.
Anyway, maybe it is too early for me to be calling for a ballot system - we've not been in the top flight for 4 decades, so upon reflection I can't really argue that a points system alone is anything other than the fairest way to go. But as [MENTION=3734]Giraffe[/MENTION] points out, from now on, it will become ever harder to pierce that top 2 band of point earners the longer we stay in this division, and then it will really will be a closed shop. At some point I feel the club will have to address the issue and I can't think of a better way than a ballot system for a small percentage of tickets.
As I have already said, upon reflection I do agree with what you (and others) say, for this season anyway.
- Aug 8, 2005
- 26,543
That is a fair point although I think IF we stay up the buzz will continue as people won't want to lose their status in the top tier.
Gazwag
5 millionth post poster
My thoughts was well, I think the first test will not come until January and February when we have established EPL clubs Stoke and West Brom away, neither of which will have the appeal of Arsenal etc and I think these two will give those fans in the lower brackets a good chance to go to - if of course they want to travel to see us away in the EPL or do they want to just go to the "blue ribbon" games. Swansea may be an earlier game but as we have never played at that stadium before (I don't think we have from memory) it has the new ground appeal for most of the top bracket supporters.
West Brom will be quite in demand I reckon, assuming it remains a Saturday 3pm. We've not played them for nearly 25 years, so it will be a new ground for many, and it's not too far to travel in the big scheme of things.
Newcastle, Burnley and Stoke are all a bit different, although we've not played Stoke in the league for 12 years so even that could tempt more than you might expect.
ATFC Seagull
Aberystwyth Town FC
I personally told the Mrs I was giving up away games 3 years ago. I don't know how long I can get away with saying "I just need to do one more year".