Corbyn' s at it again !

Live by the sea said:

The people who lived in that tower block must be rehoused locally. I totally agree with that. What I don't agree with is Corbyn trying to stir up dislike among the so called working class and people that through hard work or luck etc own several properties. If they paid the market price for it and bought it legitimately then surely it's their choice what they do with it. How about the people that buy flash cars yet rarely if ever drive them. Again their choice.

We need to concentrate on how to help these people and make sure nothing like this happens again not look to divert the underlying anger towards wealthy people, they were not responsible for maintaining the building or causing the fire.

Maybe initially I didn't word my post very well, for that I apologise.

I'm certainly not wealthy by any standards but I believe you treat all people equally regardless of wealth.

For what's it's worth I donated £50 yesterday to do my bit

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Live by the sea said:

The people who lived in that tower block must be rehoused locally. I totally agree with that. What I don't agree with is Corbyn trying to stir up dislike among the so called working class and people that through hard work or luck etc own several properties. If they paid the market price for it and bought it legitimately then surely it's their choice what they do with it. How about the people that buy flash cars yet rarely if ever drive them. Again their choice.

We need to concentrate on how to help these people and make sure nothing like this happens again not look to divert the underlying anger towards wealthy people, they were not responsible for maintaining the building or causing the fire.

Maybe initially I didn't word my post very well, for that I apologise.

I'm certainly not wealthy by any standards but I believe you treat all people equally regardless of wealth.

For what's it's worth I donated £50 yesterday to do my bit

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Brighton Mod said:

He is an undisputed Marxist and although it may be unpleasant for those who voted for him to hear, that is a fact.

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BLOCK F said:

This dreadful tragedy has exposed what a divided section of the community NSC represents.
Valid points made by both sides, but an awful lot of finger pointing bile has also emerged that is unnecessarily nasty.
I cannot help but feel that Corbyn is guilty of political opportunism and there is a dangerous hint of mob rule lurking in the air.
Not saying this is all down to Corbyn, but I hope cool heads and common sense prevail.

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Live by the sea said:

The people who lived in that tower block must be rehoused locally. I totally agree with that. What I don't agree with is Corbyn trying to stir up dislike among the so called working class and people that through hard work or luck etc own several properties. If they paid the market price for it and bought it legitimately then surely it's their choice what they do with it. How about the people that buy flash cars yet rarely if ever drive them. Again their choice.

We need to concentrate on how to help these people and make sure nothing like this happens again not look to divert the underlying anger towards wealthy people, they were not responsible for maintaining the building or causing the fire.

Maybe initially I didn't word my post very well, for that I apologise.

I'm certainly not wealthy by any standards but I believe you treat all people equally regardless of wealth.

For what's it's worth I donated £50 yesterday to do my bit

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Titanic said:

McDonnell calling for millions to get out on the streets and sending his Momentum attack dogs and Corbynista Ultras to rile up the crowds isn't exactly going to help, is it?

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soistes said:

Depends what you mean by Marxist. If you mean someone who's read some Marx (and Engels and others) and agrees with a fair amount of it (albeit accepting that some of it, having been written in the mid-19th century, needs to be adjusted for modern times), then I, for one, plead guilty to being a "Marxist", and wouldn't take it as an insult at all. It's certainly not unpleasant for me to hear that Corbyn might also be that way inclined.

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London Irish said:

Sussex Nomad, give it up, time's are a changing.

Majority of Brits (59%) support Corbyn's calls to requisition empty properties for homeless Grenfell Tower residents

https://yougov.co.uk/opi/surveys/re...f7a01240-527a-11e7-bfce-be36d6dc7ab1/toplines

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Plooks said:

Unfortunatly a large proportion of the rich are there, at least partly, due to being born into the right demographic or at the right time. If you are outside that you can work just as hard or harder and never get anywhere. That is why there is anger and things need to change.

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Brighton Mod said:

I've had a go at Das kapital when studying history in that period. Out dated of course and difficult for a 19 year old, i'm not a Marxist either, even though I have read some of this book. Corbyns whole political back story tells us of his beliefs, convictions and thoughts, so for him to undergo such a sea change in synchroisity with the general election is beyond belief. I consider him a very dangerous man, irresponsible in his spending aspirations, indulgent in his desires for state intervention and not honest or believable on his estimates for expenditure. Speaking with the IRA involving himself in the peace process, really, only speaking to one side is not helping, talking to Hamas and being anti semetic towards UK citizens who have a jewish faith and openly talking about negotiating with ISIS, he has no foreign policy what so ever.
The younger in society have no concept of him and his true CV other than he has offered free tuition fees which of course will have to be paid by the UK tax payer, of whom these jubilant students will be when the leave univesity.
No doubt he is a Marxist and no doubt he is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

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Brighton Mod said:

I've had a go at Das kapital when studying history in that period. Out dated of course and difficult for a 19 year old, i'm not a Marxist either, even though I have read some of this book. Corbyns whole political back story tells us of his beliefs, convictions and thoughts, so for him to undergo such a sea change in synchroisity with the general election is beyond belief. I consider him a very dangerous man, irresponsible in his spending aspirations, indulgent in his desires for state intervention and not honest or believable on his estimates for expenditure. Speaking with the IRA involving himself in the peace process, really, only speaking to one side is not helping, talking to Hamas and being anti semetic towards UK citizens who have a jewish faith and openly talking about negotiating with ISIS, he has no foreign policy what so ever.
The younger in society have no concept of him and his true CV other than he has offered free tuition fees which of course will have to be paid by the UK tax payer, of whom these jubilant students will be when the leave univesity.
No doubt he is a Marxist and no doubt he is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

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Rod Marsh said:

I wouldn't agree with that. Just because some people are born poor does not mean they will always be poor. There is a large amount of wage mobility in the UK. My father is a blue collar working class man and has never been rich but he is still more wealthy than his parents ever were. I earn considerably more than my father ever did. In a very short space of time families can go from being poor to wealthy.

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El Presidente said:

Regardless of one's political leanings, the extent of foreign ownership of property in the UK, especially London (and within that Kensington being particularly attractive) is scary.

Many of these properties are vacant, simply because the owners, who are frequently nameplate companies registered in tax havens, use them as a store of wealth, rather than as a dwelling.

Take a look at the Private Eye map of foreign ownership, note the prices of the properties, and ask yourself how did we let this happen?

https://suemarcar.carto.com/viz/9fc804fa-4b6b-11e5-a73d-0e0c41326911/embed_map

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Titanic said:

McDonnell calling for millions to get out on the streets and sending his Momentum attack dogs and Corbynista Ultras to rile up the crowds isn't exactly going to help, is it?

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