[News] UK Independence Day 28/29 March 2018

ferring seagull · Nov 10, 2017

JC Footy Genius said:
No whining then you whine on. We are where we are yet you have no preferences about the best way to navigate to the destination. The good ship Brittania has set a course agreed by the majority .. best you get over it.

Yes but is pretty unbelievable that such a huge subject should have been decided on a simple majority. It should have been something like 75% of those voting !

BadFish · Nov 10, 2017

brightn'ove said:
We could put big slogans on buses, such as "We give £350 million to the EU every week, let's give that to our NHS instead".

Do the NHS start getting the money on the same date

5ways · Nov 10, 2017

Will be a good date for historians to mark as the point at which the UK after nearly 300 years or so ceased to be a serious world power.

pastafarian · Nov 10, 2017

ferring seagull said:
Yes but is pretty unbelievable that such a huge subject should have been decided on a simple majority. It should have been something like 75% of those voting !

Good idea, lets correct this.
For the second referendum lets have a 75% majority of a 75% voter turnout to overturn leaving the EU.......all those in favour say aye!

GT49er · Nov 11, 2017

lawros left foot said:
Indubitably, until that decision is overturned by a new decision like the 1975 referendum was overturned by the 2015 one.

So, certain moaners should shut the f**k up until 2055 then. Fair's fair, eh? In the unlikely event that the EU is still going then, we can apply to join again. OK? Now then, what's your problem with that - forty years of your own way followed by forty years of someone else's? Fan of democracy, are you - or a covert supporter of another form of governance?

Thunder Bolt · Nov 11, 2017

pastafarian said:
oooooh so close.......yet at the same time so far way.
The business community of Grimsby, namely(and mostly) the fishing processing part are seeking to become an international free trade zone/ free trade port, as exists in other countries, something they would not be able to do whilst we are still in the EU as it would conflict with the regulations surrounding state aid.

Nothing like a bit of project deliberatelydonttellthewholetruth

Argue it out with Professor Brian Cox.

http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/professor-brian-cox-wades-twitter-745570

lawros left foot · Nov 11, 2017

GT49er said:
So, certain moaners should shut the f**k up until 2055 then. Fair's fair, eh? In the unlikely event that the EU is still going then, we can apply to join again. OK? Now then, what's your problem with that - forty years of your own way followed by forty years of someone else's? Fan of democracy, are you - or a covert supporter of another form of governance?

Oh, you mean like the anti- EU lobby has been quite for the last 44 years? And, I repeat, freedom of speech is a necessity of democracy, so, us remoaners are only re-enforcing the rule of the majority. You lot should be glad we're here, seeing as a lot of you only wanted your country back.

nicko31 · Nov 11, 2017

BadFish said:
Do the NHS start getting the money on the same date

Its where privatisation starts, US corporates can't wait

Thunder Bolt · Nov 11, 2017

GT49er said:
So, certain moaners should shut the f**k up until 2055 then. Fair's fair, eh? In the unlikely event that the EU is still going then, we can apply to join again. OK? Now then, what's your problem with that - forty years of your own way followed by forty years of someone else's? Fan of democracy, are you - or a covert supporter of another form of governance?

Democracy where only 17 million out of a population of 63.6 million (those eligible to vote as of December 2015 was 45,766,000) voted to leave.

Thunder Bolt · Nov 11, 2017

Lord Kerr wrote the Lisbon Treaty. It included Article 50.

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/928889957309145088

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Westdene Seagull · Nov 11, 2017

Herr Tubthumper said:
I see Davis is now banging on about there not being an Irish border. Why can't the EU protect their border like Britain wants to? ****ing stupid hypocrite.

(This is a rhetorical question before anyone wastes their time replying)

I am going to waste my time answering because clearly you didn't listen to what he was actually saying in your rush to support the EU. According to Radio 4 yesterday, what the EU have suggested is a border between NI and the UK mainland - i.e. NI is a defacto EU member. Borderless between Eire and NI. Regardless of what you think of Brexit or DD even you must see what is wrong with the EU creating an artificial border within the UK ?

GT49er · Nov 11, 2017

lawros left foot said:
Oh, you mean like the anti- EU lobby has been quite for the last 44 years? And, I repeat, freedom of speech is a necessity of democracy, so, us remoaners are only re-enforcing the rule of the majority. You lot should be glad we're here, seeing as a lot of you only wanted your country back.

Errmm - perhaps you hadn't noticed, but 'us remoaners' are a minority, by a million or so.

Publius Ovidius · Nov 11, 2017

Quick question...all these projects in the uk that are funded by EU and grants, subsidies etc...will,the government pick these up and continue paying to the farmers etc or will that all stop and they will joint the queue with everyone else at this time of shrinking budgets?

Also, I wandered around Aldi in Crawley the other day....most of the products on offer were sourced from Germany. Again when we leave, will the prices in these sort of shops rocket when normal trade tariffs are applied as we will be out of th free trade zone? Applies also to volkskis bmws mercs Peugeot, seat, skodas. Etc

5ways · Nov 11, 2017

Publius Ovidius said:
Quick question...all these projects in the uk that are funded by EU and grants, subsidies etc...will,the government pick these up and continue paying to the farmers etc or will that all stop and they will joint the queue with everyone else at this time of shrinking budgets?

Also, I wandered around Aldi in Crawley the other day....most of the products on offer were sourced from Germany. Again when we leave, will the prices in these sort of shops rocket when normal trade tariffs are applied as we will be out of th free trade zone? Applies also to volkskis bmws mercs Peugeot, seat, skodas. Etc

I am sure that the EU develoment funds which have built so much infrastructure in places like the Welsh valleys will be replaced £ for £ by Westminster....*cough*

GT49er · Nov 11, 2017

Thunder Bolt said:
Democracy where only 17 million out of a population of 63.6 million (those eligible to vote as of December 2015 was 45,766,000) voted to leave.

Non voters do not count. Never have. By not voting they tacitly endorse the decision of the majority. That's normal standard democracy. Next question?

WATFORD zero · Nov 11, 2017

Publius Ovidius said:
Quick question...all these projects in the uk that are funded by EU and grants, subsidies etc...will,the government pick these up and continue paying to the farmers etc or will that all stop and they will joint the queue with everyone else at this time of shrinking budgets?

Also, I wandered around Aldi in Crawley the other day....most of the products on offer were sourced from Germany. Again when we leave, will the prices in these sort of shops rocket when normal trade tariffs are applied as we will be out of th free trade zone? Applies also to volkskis bmws mercs Peugeot, seat, skodas. Etc

If you want the true answer - Nobody knows

But we have 16 months left to sort all of that out (and anything else you can think of). The fact that we have agreed nothing in the 16 months to date is the reason some people are getting a little concerned, particularly those who have to start any type of business or financial planning for the future. (When i worked for large corporates we used to plan way beyond 16 months).

Or as Ppf puts it (without any sense of irony) tick tock, tick tock

ManOfSussex · Nov 11, 2017

Indeed. Tick tock, tick tock.............another day nearer to Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister too.

GT49er · Nov 11, 2017

5ways said:
I am sure that the EU develoment funds which have built so much infrastructure in places like the Welsh valleys will be replaced £ for £ by Westminster....*cough*

So just where do you think the EU got that money from? Are you seriously unable to understand the concept of 'net contributor'?

Besides, that infrastructure is all nicely in place - do you feel a need to pay for it twice?

whosthedaddy · Nov 11, 2017

ManOfSussex said:
Indeed. Tick tock, tick tock.............another day nearer to Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister too.

Ah Yes! Tick tock indeed, it will feel like sleepwalking into the abyss...and finding that money tree has also fallen in.

whosthedaddy · Nov 11, 2017

ManOfSussex said:
Indeed. Tick tock, tick tock.............another day nearer to Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister too.

Ah Yes! Tick tock indeed, it will feel like sleepwalking into the abyss...and finding that money tree has also fallen in.

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