[Politics] Pledge to Corbyn!

HantsSeagull · Dec 4, 2017

Chicken Run said:
So Angela Raynor has refused to sign a pledge to Leader Corbyn that Momentum ask MP’s sign if they want their support, I wonder if Peter Kyle or the Kemptown MP have signed?

I know Ernest has!

'lights fuse paper and retires to safety......'

well played.

beorhthelm · Dec 4, 2017

The Merry Prankster said:
I think you'll find that it is the above named who are out of sync with the rest of us. At a national level the Labour Party splits into two camps 1) those that believe that a Neo-liberal economic system is bad/has run its course and those 2) who don't. Group 1 includes the leadership, the membership and Momentum, Group 2 contains some of the PLP, Blairites and centerists..

you're suggesting that there is no membership in Group 2. has the purge been completed?

The Merry Prankster · Dec 4, 2017

beorhthelm said:
you're suggesting that there is no membership in Group 2. has the purge been completed?

No, I’m not (as I’m sure you well know). Merely a majority are in group 1. “Purge” is a good, emotive word used by those who don’t like the results of democracy. For a real purge try Kensington and Chelsea Tories.

Live by the sea · Dec 4, 2017

pastafarian said:
Momentum really are a very troubling organisation.There supporters are quite full of hate and are full of the sort of toxic venom that Corbyn campaigns against. How on earth have they been allowed to become so powerful in the Labour movement.

Couldn’t agree more, momentum really are a nasty bunch of utter scumbags that damage the credibility of the once decent fair minded Labour Party

JC Footy Genius · Dec 4, 2017

Just google Labour party bullying, antisemitism, extremism ... lots to read including from the Guardian, Independent, Mirror and other in-house sources. Didn't the BBC think it neccasery to provide a female reporter with a bodyguard at the Labour conference?

Yeah they're a lovely bunch ... :facepalm:

ManOfSussex · Dec 4, 2017

Here they all come. Like a moth to a flame.

Leekbrookgull · Dec 4, 2017

The Merry Prankster said:
I attended the committee meeting of our local group last night. Every single person on it had lived through the seventies and none of them had any desire to revisit them.

As did myself and welcome Prophet Corbyn.

cheshunt seagull · Dec 4, 2017

A1X said:
The one thing I find baffling about Momentum is their seeming determination to spend more time fighting MPs on their own side (Hilary Benn, Peter Kyle, Jess Phillips) than any of their actual political opponents. I think it's great if younger people are actually engaging in politics but it strikes me there's this desperation for purity over pragmatism.

There have always been elements in the left that cannot distinguish between an imperfect (in the purist's eyes) friend and an enemy.

The Merry Prankster · Dec 4, 2017

Live by the sea said:
Couldn’t agree more, momentum really are a nasty bunch of utter scumbags that damage the credibility of the once decent fair minded Labour Party

I reiterate, I was at our local group last night and don't recognise this description at all but then someone's told you different I expect.

Chicken Run · Dec 4, 2017

The Merry Prankster said:
I reiterate, I was at our local group last night and don't recognise this description at all but then someone's told you different I expect.

I fear Mr Prankster that the sort of meeting you attended last night could tell you to use dog shit as teeth floss and 80% will give it a go, I think of Momentum and I see The Church of Corbyntology!!!!

portslade seagull · Dec 4, 2017

The Merry Prankster said:
I attended the committee meeting of our local group last night. Every single person on it had lived through the seventies and none of them had any desire to revisit them.

Honest !!!

portslade seagull · Dec 4, 2017

Simster said:
No, I'm saying they costed it, and you as a voter were given the opportunity of whether or not to vote for them based on that.

Did you vote for the the "vote for us or you'll get that nasty Jeremy Corbyn" party? Absolute bunch of chancers.

Some Labour MP woman stated over the weekend Corbyn had no chance of paying for everything he has promised so far. Said things would have to be dropped so others cost in. Same old labour

melias shoes · Dec 4, 2017

The Merry Prankster said:
Really? How many meetings have you been to? I was at ours last night and don’t recognise that description but I expect you have a lot more experience than me.

Momentum are vile. Led by marxists from the militant 70s.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...ied-trotskyists-who-are-now-close-corbyn-–-ex

The Merry Prankster · Dec 4, 2017

melias shoes said:
Momentum are vile. Led by marxists from the militant 70s.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...ied-trotskyists-who-are-now-close-corbyn-–-ex

I’m going to take that as none then.

The Merry Prankster · Dec 4, 2017

Chicken Run said:
I fear Mr Prankster that the sort of meeting you attended last night could tell you to use dog shit as teeth floss and 80% will give it a go, I think of Momentum and I see The Church of Corbyntology!!!!

I’m unable to engage with this level of debate.

CaptainDaveUK · Dec 4, 2017

Labour's ridiculous manifesto amongst other things convinced me to not vote Labour again, certainly while Corbyn and any of his friends are anywhere near the leadership. My local MP, Luciana Berger has been treated disgracefully by Momentum.

melias shoes · Dec 4, 2017

The Merry Prankster said:
I’m going to take that as none then.

You can take it as you like. Meanwhile I'll take it as the Far Left taking over Labour. Why is that ok? If the far right was in charge of the Tories you would be shouting from the rooftops. Meanwhile. ......
https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...news/91145/momentum-leading-far-left-takeover

The Merry Prankster · Dec 4, 2017

melias shoes said:
You can take it as you like. Meanwhile I'll take it as the Far Left taking over Labour. Why is that ok? If the far right was in charge of the Tories you would be shouting from the rooftops. Meanwhile. ......
https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...news/91145/momentum-leading-far-left-takeover

a) why isn’t it okay, it’s democratic b) in case you hadn’t noticed the Tories are firmly led by their extreme right - Gove, Fox, Davis and their unholy alliance with right wing nutters, the DUP

Brighton Mod · Dec 4, 2017

The Merry Prankster said:
a) why isn’t it okay, it’s democratic b) in case you hadn’t noticed the Tories are firmly led by their extreme right - Gove, Fox, Davis and their unholy alliance with right wing nutters, the DUP

DUP, right wing nutters? Thats not really acceptable language is it. They have just saved Northern Ireland from catastrophe. They dislike Corbyn because of history with the IRA and before I hear the same old litany of him trying to be peacemaker, you need to speak to both sides to do that. Your language and tone belies any words you write. You're close to being brain washed sunshine.

Neville's Breakfast · Dec 4, 2017

cheshunt seagull said:
There have always been elements in the left that cannot distinguish between an imperfect (in the purist's eyes) friend and an enemy.

People’s Front of Judea..splitters !

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