Dale Stephens Summer 2016 shenanigans (Merged Thread)

Blue Valkyrie · Aug 31, 2016

Icy Gull said:
Which is where plan B comes in??

Plan B is Elvis.

Greg Bobkin · Aug 31, 2016

fleet said:
Naylor says it's all over - no ins and no outs for bhafc

That's not *quite* how it was: "An update. Never say never with over 8 hours left but latest word is moving towards maintaining status quo, no more ins or outs. #bhafc"

Eric Youngs Contact Lense · Aug 31, 2016

A bit confused by some of the comments about not signing a striker.. I have no doubt that we have tried incredibly hard to sign a striker. In fact, unusually, CH has been very open about the fact that he would like one. No doubt Pritchard was one target to boost attacking options, but I am sure there would have been others. That we haven't signed one (assuming nothing comes out of the woodwork now) then why do some take a tone that the Club has cocked it up? Look at the prices that have been paid for Championship Strikers.. £11m for a lad who has played 1 season in the Championship, McCormack for similar, £7m (?) for Vydra who wasn't a regular are three that spring to mind. We cannot compete with that.. we have never been able to compete with that. Norwich, Villa, Newcastle, Derby all pushing the values higher and higher beyond the reach of most. Our approach doesn't seemed to have changed, albeit we are paying more and more for players.. The better statement of our ambition is not selling our best players to those clubs for huge amounts of money. We were close last year, stronger this year (on paper) at the back, in midfield and similar up front.. whether that is good enough we all wait to see, but I cant see why it is a perceived "lack of ambition"?

Pavilionaire · Aug 31, 2016

WhingForPresident said:
I'm usually quite optimistic and chilled about these kind of things, but not signing a striker will prove to be a massive **** up, which will undoubtedly result in another season in the Championship, which leads to the prospect of losing Kayal and Stephens for nothing and Dunk, Goldson & Knockaert wanting out to get PL football.

Naylor has already confirmed the club IS trying to sign a striker but other chairmen don't want to sell.

Javeaseagull · Aug 31, 2016

Nothing to stop us signing Robson Kanu or any other free agent tomorrow, as far as I know.

Bugger just heard he is on his way to West Brom! There are others out there.

NooBHA · Aug 31, 2016

Icy Gull said:
Which is where plan B comes in??

I have no idea who plan B was but it was probably running in conjunction with plan A - So **** knows what happened to plan B

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · Aug 31, 2016

Blue Valkyrie said:
Plan B is Elvis.

Pretty Plnk Fairy · Aug 31, 2016

Shabby that an English born player is behaving this way. Could of understanded it if it had been a foriegner, as they are only here for the benefits. At least the other English players such as Stockdale Bruno and Dunk dont behave that way

Regards

DR

GT49er · Aug 31, 2016

Behind Enemy Lines said:
Unless he has a complete volte-face, not selling Stephens is a big mistake. Now one of our best players, if not the best, is unhappy and doesn’t want to be here. That leaves us with a weakened central midfield, the hallmark of our success last season. As for the striker, it sounds like the club put all its eggs in Alex Pritchard's basket and when that deal went wrong (no blame can be attached to the club) we've been left with few other options for a No 10. I have long though CH’s desire for a number 10 may be a distraction from just buying striker who can score more goals than Baldock or even Hemed. For a club which missed out on promotion to the Premier League by the slimmest of margins, not to find a pacey forward all summer has to go down as a failure.
As it is, we look vulnerably short up front. With just three strikers everyone better pray that Glenn Murray doesn't get injured.

If we keep Stephens, and if he doesn't sulk and plays full out to his best ability alongside Kayak I won't be too unhappy with this summer's business. Yes, it would have been nice (still would be!) to get a fast, skilful, 20+ goal striker in, but if we have Kayal and Stephens firing on all cylinders (and we've got pretty decent back up to cover injuries and suspensions - which we have) there are goals throughout this team.
Once AK and Skalak arrived last season, we scored plenty - with effectively only two properly fit strikers (Bobby Z had finally reached his last legs, and Wilson..........enough said!)

RandyWanger · Aug 31, 2016

Greg Bobkin said:
That's not *quite* how it was: "An update. Never say never with over 8 hours left but latest word is moving towards maintaining status quo, no more ins or outs. #bhafc"

Was it Leeds who tweeted on the night before deadline that they've done all their business?

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · Aug 31, 2016

At the start of the window I said "All we need is a proven goal scorer and to keep our best players"

We kept our best players and added Murray. I'd be arguing with myself if I didn't take that as good work all round.

GT49er · Aug 31, 2016

Blue Valkyrie said:
James Wilson was a youth loan last year. Any player young enough, no transfer window restriction, can be recalled after 28 days.

That's interesting. What is the age limit? And what lengths of loans are allowed?

Edit: It does look from this - http://the72.co.uk/57887/change-efl-leads-loan-deal-changes/ - as if the only concession to the loan window restrictions for young players is the ability to recall them after 28 days, not to borrow them whenever.

Icy Gull · Aug 31, 2016

NooBHA said:
I have no idea who plan B was but it was probably running in conjunction with plan A - So **** knows what happened to plan B

Plan C is probably a League One striker so best avoided given our record with them :lolol:

Exile · Aug 31, 2016

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
At the start of the window I said "All we need is a proven goal scorer and to keep our best players"

We kept our best players and added Murray (and signed Duffy, Norwood and Pocognoli). I'd be arguing with myself if I didn't take that as good work all round.

FFA

chaileyjem · Aug 31, 2016

Blue Valkyrie said:
It's a good point that Youth loans are still available after today.

they aren't anymore. no more loans until January.

Ninja Elephant · Aug 31, 2016

Once again - THERE IS NO LOAN WINDOW.

It's over for all clubs until January after today, no loans, nothing. That gravy train was stopped by the INTERFERING EUFA.

Neil · Aug 31, 2016

Burnley buy Hendrick so no go for Stephens

that hopefully should be that

Blue Valkyrie · Aug 31, 2016

GT49er said:
That's interesting. What is the age limit? And what lengths of loans are allowed?

I don't know the age limit without looking it up, something like under 19 at the start of the season ?

The loan length can be all season, but as mentioned is recallable at any time after 28 days.

junior · Aug 31, 2016

Couldn't you just put that in the Stevens thread?

severnside gull · Aug 31, 2016

Suggestion is that they wanted both. :shrug:

Still Hull to come back in for him though :lolol:

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