Sunderland to make derisory bid for Bridders

Footsoldier · Dec 23, 2013

Didn't Tony say he doesn't like doing business in the January window so can't see him changing his mind and plus we could be in the play off position come January and Tony wouldn't want Poyet to ruin another season.

brightonmark1234 · Dec 23, 2013

The Complete Badger said:
On Saturday, Bridcutt played like he knew he is leaving. In the first half I saw him clearly bottle three challenges that resulted in Huddersfield taking the ball from 50/50 situations. I accept players like Buckley and Lopez bottle tackles and it doesn't mean they're leaving, but tackling is an integral part of Bridcutt's game so if he's pulling out of physical moments in the game then something is not right. The fact he got Man of the Match was laughable. I reckon he'll be gone within the first week of the transfer window, and it's probably not a bad thing for either him or the club if he is, but we MUST apply a Gus premium to any player he wants to sign. If he is already happy to pay £2m, then let's not even start talking until he gets to £3m.

sorry disagree with this bit On Saturday, Bridcutt played like he knew he is leaving

Footsoldier · Dec 23, 2013

brightonmark1234 said:
sorry disagree with this bit On Saturday, Bridcutt played like he knew he is leaving

On our terms Mark. Meet our valuation or he stays.

CheeseRolls · Dec 23, 2013

The Complete Badger said:
The other thing about Bridcutt apart from him bottling challenges is that he gave the ball away more on Saturday than I have ever seen in one match. He played numerous longer passes forward that rarely got to their target. His game is all about short sideways passing, I don't think he's got the ability to hit 30/40-yard balls or to move the ball at pace, which seem to be features of Oscar's game. Gus' style allowed him all the time he wanted to be on the ball and dictate the slow build-up, but even if he was fully committed I don't really see him fitting in anywhere near as well with Oscar's approach as he just isn't suited to it.

I think you are probably reading too much into one below par performance in difficult conditions, against resolute opposition, who are much improved on last season. Let's see how he performs over the Christmas period and then see if you are a visionary or a touch over-analytical ?

Stat Brother · Dec 23, 2013

Can we sell him, then instantly loan him back.

Bridders signs a contract with a relegation get out clause.
We then sign a promotion 'buy Bridcutt' clause, with Sunderland.

Basically everything stays the same, if we get promoted, bish-bosh, happy days, job done.

dougdeep · Dec 23, 2013

£3M minimum. £3.2 even. But why move there?

Commander · Dec 23, 2013

The Complete Badger said:
Bridcutt clearly wants to go

That's a bit of a leap to make, I don't think we know that for certain.

We should only let him go if a) we get £3 million + and b) we sign Ince up on a long term deal first.

Mellotron · Dec 23, 2013

The Complete Badger said:
On Saturday, Bridcutt played like he knew he is leaving. In the first half I saw him clearly bottle three challenges that resulted in Huddersfield taking the ball from 50/50 situations. I accept players like Buckley and Lopez bottle tackles and it doesn't mean they're leaving, but tackling is an integral part of Bridcutt's game so if he's pulling out of physical moments in the game then something is not right. The fact he got Man of the Match was laughable. I reckon he'll be gone within the first week of the transfer window, and it's probably not a bad thing for either him or the club if he is, but we MUST apply a Gus premium to any player he wants to sign. If he is already happy to pay £2m, then let's not even start talking until he gets to £3m.

I did note along with those aside that he played in a very "un-Bridcutt" like manner on Saturday. Flying around and then jumping out of tackles. Didn't look himself. Never MoM.

Mellotron · Dec 23, 2013

Commander said:
That's a bit of a leap to make, I don't think we know that for certain.

We should only let him go if a) we get £3 million + and b) we sign Ince up on a long term deal first.

Sorry but that Ince thing is still nonsense. They don't perform anything like the same role in the team. Their attributes are pretty much exactly opposite.

drew · Dec 23, 2013

Stat Brother said:
Can we sell him, then instantly loan him back.

Bridders signs a contract with a relegation get out clause.
We then sign a promotion 'buy Bridcutt' clause, with Sunderland.

Basically everything stays the same, if we get promoted, bish-bosh, happy days, job done.

I think Sunderland would want him to help retain their status in the prem, don't you?

Also, another thing against us is that I believe Poyet and Bridders have the same agent!!!

That said, £2m would be an absolute steal.

Meade's Ball · Dec 23, 2013

I thought often a player's value can be made at least in part through statistics. If we did it by goals and assists, then we'd get about £9.32. If we go by influence then his prices rockets, but if we even the numbers up i can see him go for between 2 and 3 mil.

Tony Meolas Loan Spell · Dec 23, 2013

Mellotron said:
I did note along with those aside that he played in a very "un-Bridcutt" like manner on Saturday. Flying around and then jumping out of tackles. Didn't look himself. Never MoM.

It was SURPRISED to see Bridders on the edge of the opponents box on more than one occasion Saturday.

The Wizard · Dec 23, 2013

Do one Gus

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · Dec 23, 2013

dougdeep said:
£3M minimum. £3.2 even. But why move there?

Premier League football.
A manager he enjoys working for
a 40k stadium
A huge wage increase
A massive club.

I'll update the list when I think of more.

S'hampton Seagull · Dec 23, 2013

I don't want him to leave, after all he is a quality player who will be expensive to replace. Having said that, if he wants to go a £3m fee would be reasonable. Guss can do one for £2m

Commander · Dec 23, 2013

Mellotron said:
Sorry but that Ince thing is still nonsense. They don't perform anything like the same role in the team. Their attributes are pretty much exactly opposite.

Yes, but that defensive midfield role in Oscar's team is more suited to Ince than Bridders. They're very different players but they can still play the same position, that position just works differently in Oscar's team than Gus'.

gripper stebson · Dec 23, 2013

I think the emergence of Mr Ince has kept this thread to two pages so far...

symyjym · Dec 23, 2013

If Bridcutt really wants to go and play for Gus there is no point in keeping him. It may be a good financial move but there is no room for favouritism at Sunderland as there was here, especially in a relegation battle.

The way Gus wanted him to play in the Championship suited the Championship, as a security blanket, but against Prem sides he needs more strings to his bow because being predictable he will be targeted and taken out of the game.

Maybe the fact that Bridcutt and Gus share the same agent is a good reason to cut him loose but I hope he will think for himself, stay here and develop his game under Oscar rather than being on a Poyet diet of clear up and side and backwards passes.

I don’t think we should persuade him to stay but I think Gus and his agent will be doing their best to persuade him to go. Ultimately it is Bridcutt's choice but I don't think being a one manager player is good for any player because you need variety, not being wrapped up in cotton wool.

Luke93 · Dec 23, 2013

Can't see Bloom accepting anything under 4M... Unless Barber wants the cash and pushes the sale.

I personally would take 3-4M, with potential add-ons to push it towards 5. This is only if Ince signs a 3-4 year contract first.

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