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papajaff · May 8, 2016

Not going to read all this thread but I just need to comment on the red card. It was not a ****ing red card. It wasn't even a foul.

Does this mean that NO-ONE is ever allowed to go for a ball if it's not glued to the ****ing turf?? Just because someone's leg MAY be on the other side. Someone who isn't wearing shin pads.

No sour grapes here because I had a few beers with Boro fans last night and travelled up with my Boro supporting mate. And all the best to them.

Meh!!

Tony Meolas Loan Spell · May 8, 2016

Da Man Clay said:
Any chance we can limit new joiners to a sub forum for a while [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION]? Tedious now.

No. Its good for traffic and kerching.

God help us if we go up. Imagine how many of "them" will be on here.

I will probably not bother with nsc.

Bozza · May 8, 2016

Tony Meolas Loan Spell said:
No. Its good for traffic and kerching.

God help us if we go up. Imagine how many of "them" will be on here.

I will probably not bother with nsc.

As I've said before, and from what I can see you've ignored it: I find it massively insulting that someone I consider a friend keeps trotting out this myth that there is some sort of financial reasoning behind moderating decisions on NSC. Ask the people you know: [MENTION=249]edna krabappel[/MENTION], [MENTION=31]El Presidente[/MENTION], [MENTION=118]Hiney[/MENTION] and [MENTION=687]Carrot Cruncher[/MENTION] if I have ever issued any kind of directive along the lines you indicate. I suspect you don't have to ask because you know what the answer will be.

When anyone is made a mod, pretty much all they are told is "do what you think is right" and "if in doubt, ask someone else". That's it.

Seriously Marcus, your tone continues to be massively insulting.

El Presidente · May 9, 2016

Sam Ovett said:
We'd have won, but you benefitted from a n injustice

1: No proof we would have won. With Stephens in the team we had one attempt on target in 58 minutes. Did we have momentum when he went off? Yes, that's a million miles away from guaranteeing victory. Boro had £20million of players on the bench should we have gone ahead, they would have piled on the pressure even if we had scored another too.

2: Bad decision from Dean? Agree totally, but such decisions go in our favour too. If you went regularly you would recall the penalty decisions at home to MK Dins and Bristol City, and of course there is also this one

Dean's incompetence helped ruin what otherwise (apart from the aggressive neanderthal behaviour from a small section of Boro fans) was a great occasion. The atmosphere was incredible, the teams were evenly contested, despite Boro's huge spending this season.

sparkie · May 9, 2016

El Presidente said:
1: No proof we would have won. With Stephens in the team we had one attempt on target in 58 minutes. Did we have momentum when he went off? Yes, that's a million miles away from guaranteeing victory. Boro had £20million of players on the bench should we have gone ahead, they would have piled on the pressure even if we had scored another too.

2: Bad decision from Dean? Agree totally, but such decisions go in our favour too. If you went regularly you would recall the penalty decisions at home to MK Dins and Bristol City, and of course there is also this one

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Dean's incompetence helped ruin what otherwise (apart from the aggressive neanderthal behaviour from a small section of Boro fans) was a great occasion. The atmosphere was incredible, the teams were evenly contested, despite Boro's huge spending this season.

The problem is that 2. Dean's mistake has not just had a consequence on 1 match like other reffing errors. It also influences 2 ( or 3 ) others with the suspension.

Sam Ovett · May 9, 2016

El Presidente said:
1: No proof we would have won. With Stephens in the team we had one attempt on target in 58 minutes. Did we have momentum when he went off? Yes, that's a million miles away from guaranteeing victory. Boro had £20million of players on the bench should we have gone ahead, they would have piled on the pressure even if we had scored another too.

2: Bad decision from Dean? Agree totally, but such decisions go in our favour too. If you went regularly you would recall the penalty decisions at home to MK Dins and Bristol City, and of course there is also this one

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Dean's incompetence helped ruin what otherwise (apart from the aggressive neanderthal behaviour from a small section of Boro fans) was a great occasion. The atmosphere was incredible, the teams were evenly contested, despite Boro's huge spending this season.

"If I went regularly" - Ignoring the blatant condescension, I'm aware of all the previous decisions going in our favour and those screwing us over. This doesn't change the fact that after 45 games we were 3 points from promotion and we were cheated out of the ability to fairly contest this after the sending off. We had the momentum and the pressure was on them. Had Dale not been wrongly sent off, we would have gone on to win.

The actual Burnley equaliser came moments later, and Barton shouldn't have been on the pitch...

grubbyhands · May 9, 2016

Driver8 said:
I'd stop any new joiners until after the playoffs. You just know it's going to be infested with Sheff Wed fans this week.

Nah, let them come. We'll deal with them the same as we'll deal with their team.

El Presidente · May 9, 2016

Sam Ovett said:
Had Dale not been wrongly sent off, we would have gone on to win.

...

You've got nothing to back that up.

Sam Ovett · May 9, 2016

El Presidente said:
You've got nothing to back that up.

And you've nothing to prove we wouldn't have won had he stayed.

sparkie · May 9, 2016

Sam Ovett said:
And you've nothing to prove we wouldn't have won had he stayed.

Indeed. Unless the last 30 minutes is replayed then no one will ever know.

El Presidente · May 9, 2016

Sam Ovett said:
And you've nothing to prove we wouldn't have won had he stayed.

I didn't make the original claim, you did.

Sam Ovett · May 9, 2016

El Presidente said:
I didn't make the original claim, you did.

And?

I'm sure we'd have won but we will never know. We were never given the chance to capitalise on our momentum due to that awful decision

El Presidente · May 9, 2016

Sam Ovett said:
I'm sure we'd have won but we will never know.

Your original claim was 'we would have won' which is a statement, 'I'm sure we would have won but we will never know' is an opinion.

There's a world of difference between the two.

dazzer6666 · May 9, 2016

Sam Ovett said:
And?

I'm sure we'd have won but we will never know. We were never given the chance to capitalise on our momentum due to that awful decision

We might have won. Or lost. But you can't say 'would'....we had created bugger all up to that point really.

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Sam Ovett · May 9, 2016

El Presidente said:
Your original claim was 'we would have won' which is a statement, 'I'm sure we would have won but we will never know' is an opinion.

There's a world of difference between the two.

Yet it's clear the original statement WAS an opinion, given the hypothetical nature of the claim. Why are you trying to flame a semantic argument that benefits nobody?

El Presidente · May 9, 2016

Sam Ovett said:
Yet it's clear the original statement WAS an opinion, given the hypothetical nature of the claim. Why are you trying to flame a semantic argument that benefits nobody?

Because I don't like people on NSC calling others 'retards'.

JC Footy Genius · May 9, 2016

Driver8 said:
I'd stop any new joiners until after the playoffs. You just know it's going to be infested with Sheff Wed fans this week.

This.

Plus Burnley and Boro if we fail to make it ... not to mention the unmentionable. A few are vaguely amusing but the deluge is beyond tedious.

Alternatively is there any way to restrict new members to the Other Stuff for a probationary period?

maltaseagull · May 9, 2016

Finchley Seagull said:
Is Mike Dean another option? Or does he come under one of the above groups?

Group D

ROSM · May 9, 2016

El Presidente said:
Because I don't like people on NSC calling others 'retards'.

Far better to be a dullard

Mind you having indulged in some drunk tweeting on saturday I did have to read back. I believe I called an ex league ref who is also a boro fan a few names including digging up a story about his short arse syndrome that Bradford City think he has. Plus a few other things directed at others....oh well

Sam Ovett · May 9, 2016

El Presidente said:
Because I don't like people on NSC calling others 'retards'.

Then ban me.

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