[Albion] "Brighton set for €10m Camarasa"

Bladders · Jan 28, 2018

"Brighton set for €10m Camarasa"

Last day job this one . You have to wonder how a player they’re prepared to sell goes up in value by £3mill in 6 months

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Postman Pat · Jan 28, 2018

Bladders said:
Last day job this one . You have to wonder how a player they’re prepared to sell goes up in value by £3mill in 6 months

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They need to pay Levante a sell on clause (would be about 2m euros), so a 1m profit if they get 10m

drew · Jan 28, 2018

Honky Tonx said:
Stephen Ward, one that spring to mind. How do you lose out on a player who has spent months on loan with you and you know that you want to sign him? I heard that the reason that we missed out on Lewis Grabban, a couple of years ago, was that he turned up at the Amex and was left waiting for ages so he left. You can even go back to the days of Ian Wright who had a successful trial with the club, was due to sign but again was left waiting so he left.

You are talking utter garbage. Ward did what any professional would do. Signed for a club in the top league and, of course, for more money than we would pay. Likewise Grabban went for money, nothing more nothing less. Not even sure he ever actually came to the club. As for Wright, where exactly did you hear that he had a 'successful' trial? He was a teen when he had his trial with us and Southend but still didn't come into league football until he was almost 22.

Uh_huh_him · Jan 28, 2018

Lindfield by the Pond said:
I totally agree with the sentiment, but some might argue we have been on a spending spree. Our net transfer business is 4th in the league.

Man U -£152.9m
Man C -£152.45m
Everton -£78.42m
Brighton -£64.4m
Hudders -£50.9

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/einnahmenausgaben/wettbewerb/GB1

Absolutely this.

It takes 2 -3 seasons to be able to build a premier league squad, without risking the club's immediate future.
As always the club has built shrewdly. They have spent a lot of money in improving the squad.
Some of our signings will stay with us, if we go down and will be part of an improved squad if we stay up.

Trying to spend your way to "guaranteed" survival is less likely to succeed than a lot of people think.

Bladders · Jan 28, 2018

Postman Pat said:
They need to pay Levante a sell on clause (would be about 2m euros), so a 1m profit if they get 10m

Ah ok , didn’t know that .

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sully · Jan 28, 2018

Postman Pat said:
They need to pay Levante a sell on clause (would be about 2m euros), so a 1m profit if they get 10m

What’s that got to do with the player’s actual value? It just affects what they are prepared to take to sell him.

Postman Pat · Jan 28, 2018

sully said:
What’s that got to do with the player’s actual value? It just affects what they are prepared to take to sell him.

Nothing, but they want to get the money back they paid for him and make a small profit, hence they value him at 10m euros.

Triggaaar · Jan 28, 2018

Lindfield by the Pond said:
I totally agree with the sentiment, but some might argue we have been on a spending spree. Our net transfer business is 4th in the league.

No it isn't. No point calling it 'net transfer' if you're only looking at one year, and ignoring the spending in the last few years. Try the last 4 or 5 years as a start:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pre...&nat=&pos=&altersklasse=&w_s=&leihe=&intern=0

Then try and take wages into account too.

Bodian · Jan 28, 2018

Triggaaar said:
No it isn't. No point calling it 'net transfer' if you're only looking at one year, and ignoring the spending in the last few years. Try the last 4 or 5 years as a start:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pre...&nat=&pos=&altersklasse=&w_s=&leihe=&intern=0

Then try and take wages into account too.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/einnahmenausgaben/wettbewerb/GB1/plus/0?ids=a&sa=&saison_id=2013&saison_id_bis=2017&nat=&pos=&altersklasse=&w_s=&leihe=&intern=0

Nice symmetry. We're the 16th biggest net spenders in the date range you mention. We're 16th in the league, and we're in the last 16 of the FA Cup. All seems just about right to me!

Weststander · Jan 28, 2018

Lindfield by the Pond said:
I totally agree with the sentiment, but some might argue we have been on a spending spree. Our net transfer business is 4th in the league.

Man U -£152.9m
Man C -£152.45m
Everton -£78.42m
Brighton -£64.4m
Hudders -£50.9

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/einnahmenausgaben/wettbewerb/GB1

That's only at today's snap shot.

3 more days of transfer business to change all that.

JimmyJayUK · Jan 29, 2018

Now if we can land this guy to....I think it would be a great transfer window!

Blue Valkyrie · Jan 29, 2018

We need to get this done before Southampton steam in to sign him.

DarrenFreemansPerm · Jan 29, 2018

Blue Valkyrie said:
We need to get this done before Southampton steam in to sign him.

Don’t fret, we’ve got time, they’ll not be steaming anywhere, they’ll be marching at best!

Marshy · Jan 29, 2018

Blue Valkyrie said:
We need to get this done before Southampton steam in to sign him.

Do we need another centre mid now ?....surely Gross is the back up option from Propper, Stephens and Kayal.

When Locadia is fit surely Gross will be removed from the no10 role ?.....

Nice to have options I know..

Garry Nelson's Left Foot · Jan 29, 2018

Marshy said:
Do we need another centre mid now ?....surely Gross is the back up option from Propper, Stephens and Kayal.

When Locadia is fit surely Gross will be removed from the no10 role ?.....

Nice to have options I know..

I guess it depends if:

a) he's considerably better than what we already have

b) Hughton plans to play with three in the middle more often.

If either of those turn out to be true then I'd say yes we do.

Birdie Boy · Jan 29, 2018

Marshy said:
Do we need another centre mid now ?....surely Gross is the back up option from Propper, Stephens and Kayal.

When Locadia is fit surely Gross will be removed from the no10 role ?.....

Nice to have options I know..

Yes, to replace Stephens. Happy for Stephens to be on the bench as cover.

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chaileyjem · Jan 29, 2018

Triggaaar said:
No it isn't. No point calling it 'net transfer' if you're only looking at one year, and ignoring the spending in the last few years. Try the last 4 or 5 years as a start:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pre...&nat=&pos=&altersklasse=&w_s=&leihe=&intern=0

Then try and take wages into account too.

here you go - but before any of the fees/spending/wage increases for 2017/18. Not sure anyone could argue Albion hasn't spent a fortune since getting to the Amex.
c£120m of losses for starters has financed most of this. But yes of course, others have spent even more.

all graphs via the very good http://priceoffootball.com/brighton-and-hove-albion-please-please-please-let-me-get-what-i-want/

spence · Jan 29, 2018

Marshy said:
Do we need another centre mid now ?....surely Gross is the back up option from Propper, Stephens and Kayal.

When Locadia is fit surely Gross will be removed from the no10 role ?.....

Nice to have options I know..

Yes we most certainly do to improve on what we have and to replace Sidwell. It's quite obvious

B.W. · Jan 29, 2018

spence said:
Yes we most certainly do to improve on what we have and to replace Sidwell. It's quite obvious

Spot on... any recent published news on Camarasa?

spence · Jan 29, 2018

B.W. said:
Spot on... any recent published news on Camarasa?

No idea. [MENTION=24867]chaileyjem[/MENTION] is in the loop :wink:

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