I think they nicked it off the TV show "Dara O'Briain's Go 8 Bit" on Dave.
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[Other Sport] F1 nonsense
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I think they nicked it off the TV show "Dara O'Briain's Go 8 Bit" on Dave.
I agree about nostalgia, but I don't think it used to be so hard to overtake. Now it seems just driving within 3 seconds of the car in front can have a significant negative effect on your lap times and tires.
I also agree it's not current in its worst state, although I do think it was better back in the 80s and 90s.
Yeah I agree with that, we're lucky to have a couple of great drivers in decent competing cars, but my point is about the sport itself and the lack of overtaking opportunities.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
The actual statistics on overtaking are really interesting, like I said, the is a memory of more overtaking that is probably less real that what actually happened. Not hard to spot the introduction of DRS.
http://cliptheapex.com/overtaking/
Do those overtakes include lapping other cars?
They'll also include grid penalties - a contender being placed at the back of the grid, and overtaking everyone.
There's also the fact that we now have pit-stops, so someone challenging to win the race will pit, get nice new tyres, and then overtake someone who was further back, going slower on old tyres.
So it doesn't show a comparison of real competitive overtakes.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
I'm sure there are variables, I think drivers have always pitted haven't they? Didn't Fangio famously win at the Nurburgring in '57 after a long pit stop.
Methodology for the statistics:
The overtaking figures for each race (across all data sets) do not include:
Position changes on the first lap of the race
Position changes due to drivers lapping backmarkers
Positions gained in the pits
Positions gained due to drivers yielding
Positions gained when a car has a serious technical problem; e.g. puncture, accident damage, etc.
Gregory2Smith1
J'les aurai!
don't really understand this obsession with overtaking
tintop & 2 wheels have far more overtakes,but they are for the most part insignificant due to their frequency
so therefore less exiciting
whereas in F1,it can be the difference between winning and losing or potentially suffering a DNF
therefore overtakes become far more important in F1,there might be less,but definantly more edge of your seat stuff when they happen
Formula 1 boring
went to Imola last year,one of those BOSS series was on
a 20 year old Benetton went screaming past me and it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up
tintop & 2 wheels have far more overtakes,but they are for the most part insignificant due to their frequency
so therefore less exiciting
whereas in F1,it can be the difference between winning and losing or potentially suffering a DNF
therefore overtakes become far more important in F1,there might be less,but definantly more edge of your seat stuff when they happen
Formula 1 boring
went to Imola last year,one of those BOSS series was on
a 20 year old Benetton went screaming past me and it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up
Geestar
New member
The same people complain about there being too many points in basketball and the one football goal is more exciting...don't really understand this obsession with overtaking
tintop & 2 wheels have far more overtakes,but they are for the most part insignificant due to their frequency
so therefore less exiciting
whereas in F1,it can be the difference between winning and losing or potentially suffering a DNF
therefore overtakes become far more important in F1,there might be less,but definantly more edge of your seat stuff when they happen
Formula 1 boring
went to Imola last year,one of those BOSS series was on
a 20 year old Benetton went screaming past me and it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up
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