[Travel] Using Phone while driving

hoveboyslim · Apr 6, 2018

The Gem said:
Just ignore it and let it ring out

This. No need to reject the call.

Deserves a ticket.

Is it PotG? · Apr 6, 2018

dazzer6666 · Apr 6, 2018

BensGrandad said:
They have trackers in their vans so know exactly where it is and what speed it is travelling at . Failing that they should send a text please ring when not driving to the company issued phone. He fully accepts that within the terms of the law as explained to him he is bang to rights and should have just let it ring but that doesnt absolve the company from making the calls and placing his licence in jeopardy.

This is not bitching just a warning to others who may be caught in a similar situation. Just let the phone ring.

So everyone at the company he works for who might call him has access to real-time tracking ? Impressive stuff. Big brother has arrived.

Herr Tubthumper · Apr 6, 2018

seagullsslimjim said:
I hate it most if my drinks bottle rolls off the passenger seat into the foot well

Always a mare trying to retrieve that at speed!

Agree. I had the smell of whisky in my car for weeks after this happened to me.

BensGrandad · Apr 6, 2018

dazzer6666 said:
So everyone at the company he works for who might call him has access to real-time tracking ? Impressive stuff. Big brother has arrived.

Not at all very simple answer, firms workers be told not to RING the company mobile send a text and the driver can pull over and ring them back after hearing the text tone.

Rodney Thomas · Apr 6, 2018

BensGrandad said:
Not at all very simple answer, firms workers be told not to RING the company mobile send a text and the driver can pull over and ring them back after hearing the text tone.

Your son was wrong BG... just accept that

Two Professors · Apr 6, 2018

Is it PotG? said:

Absolute class.That's my ringtone.Sometimes have to ring people back as I have forgotten to answer :lolol:

Is it PotG? · Apr 6, 2018

BensGrandad said:
Not at all very simple answer, firms workers be told not to RING the company mobile send a text and the driver can pull over and ring them back after hearing the text tone.

But he might waste valuable time by pulling over to read a PPI cold call text.

Unless you set the phone to have a different text notification sound when it's from the firm. A unique one.

Pretty pink fairy · Apr 6, 2018

BensGrandad said:
Apparently there is a new law which came into affect in January which states that you can only take your hands off of the steering wheel to change gear, no other reason whatsoever.

My sons firm phoned him and he rejected the call as he was driving but he was observed by a roadside patrol who said they saw him reject the call but it is still illegal to take a hand away from the wheel. So he got a ticket.

He phoned his mate who is in rapid response for the Met and just been promoted to sergeant who told him the officer was correct and also a new law comes into affect soon, but he was not certain when, stating that the phone must not be on show but in a glove box.

I agree that they should not be used but I think the officer was pushing the limit especially as her saw him reject the call and also all firms should be compelled to have hands free fitted with steering wheel control if they are going to call their workers.

DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE :dunce:

regards
DR

dazzer6666 · Apr 6, 2018

BensGrandad said:
Not at all very simple answer, firms workers be told not to RING the company mobile send a text and the driver can pull over and ring them back after hearing the text tone.

You’ve lost me, what’s that got to do with tracking info ? Anyway, sending a text is barely any better - it’s still down to the person receiving it to choose what to do. Don’t touch the phone. Simple.

dazzer6666 · Apr 6, 2018

Rodney Thomas said:
Your son was wrong BG... just accept that

No, no he isn’t. He carries the NW gene.

TheJasperCo · Apr 6, 2018

Icy Gull said:
So I cannot touch my stereo if it doesn’t have steering wheel controls? Also in slow moving traffic I drive one handed with the other hand on the gear stick to change up or down depending on how fast the traffic is moving. Struggle to see how I am going to get fined for that because otherwise I will be taking my hand on and off the steering wheel every few seconds or driving in the wrong gear most of the time.

Can I have a link to this “new” law because it sounds like a load of bollocks to me and I don’t believe it.

Could be an interpretation of this recent amendment to the Road Traffic Act: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/41D

There's legal blogs out there, where the authors are as confused as the lay public on these matters.

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo · Apr 6, 2018

BensGrandad said:
Not at all very simple answer, firms workers be told not to RING the company mobile send a text and the driver can pull over and ring them back after hearing the text tone.

But then the text will distract them as they'll want to read that. Its quite simple, don't touch your phone when driving even to reject a call. The onus is on the driver to use his/her common sense to ignore the phone until they are in a position to answer the call/text without breaking the law. Companies can have all the internal policies in place but it doesn't absolve the driver from their responsibility when in control of a motor car.

BensGrandad · Apr 6, 2018

Rodney Thomas said:
Your son was wrong BG... just accept that

I accept that and so does he but it seems to be pushing the law a little. When the paper work comes through he will obviously seek advice. I think the company should offer the services of the company solicitor as I believe that they were in the wrong for calling him while knowing he was driving to a job, which they may well do.

Pretty pink fairy · Apr 6, 2018

Still plenty of people on the roads texting though :nono:

regards
DR

Napper · Apr 6, 2018

Lot of bollocks rule.

Albion my Albion · Apr 6, 2018

Just a minute, I have to pull over since I left my flies open. I don't want to get a citation for taking my hand off the steering wheel but I also don't want to get a citation for indecent exposure. What should I do?

In case you are wondering I am using voice to text software so I'm not typing this message.

studio150 · Apr 6, 2018

BensGrandad said:
Apparently there is a new law which came into affect in January which states that you can only take your hands off of the steering wheel to change gear, no other reason whatsoever.

My sons firm phoned him and he rejected the call as he was driving but he was observed by a roadside patrol who said they saw him reject the call but it is still illegal to take a hand away from the wheel. So he got a ticket.

He phoned his mate who is in rapid response for the Met and just been promoted to sergeant who told him the officer was correct and also a new law comes into affect soon, but he was not certain when, stating that the phone must not be on show but in a glove box.

I agree that they should not be used but I think the officer was pushing the limit especially as her saw him reject the call and also all firms should be compelled to have hands free fitted with steering wheel control if they are going to call their workers.

What was the offence listed on the ticket?

There has always been the driving without due care and attention offence, which pops up from time to time, where drivers are (rightly) convicted while eating a sandwich or an apple.

As regards the glove box, this currently forms part of the radio advert campaign to discourage using a mobile while driving, which suggest placing the mobile in the glove box.

Pretty pink fairy · Apr 6, 2018

Albion my Albion said:
Just a minute, I have to pull over since I left my flies open. I don't want to get a citation for taking my hand off the steering wheel but I also don't want to get a citation for indecent exposure. What should I do?

In case you are wondering I am using voice to text software so I'm not typing this message.

BUT VIEWING NSC ?
regards
DR

dazzer6666 · Apr 6, 2018

BensGrandad said:
I accept that and so does he but it seems to be pushing the law a little. When the paper work comes through he will obviously seek advice. I think the company should offer the services of the company solicitor as I believe that they were in the wrong for calling him while knowing he was driving to a job, which they may well do.

Stop digging fella. It’s his fault, 100%.

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