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Four horse race
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darkwolf666
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Has anyone else noticed, in the last 3 games the scoring has been as such...
Hull - 2 goals
Boro - 2 goals
Burnley - 2 goals
BHA - 8 goals
Sheff Wed - 7 goals
Derby - 1 goal
And we need a striker!
Yes, I know that all 3 of our games have been at home, but considering some have been moaning on about a lack of a striker I think those figures reflect well on us, and cast doubts on some of the other top teams - are they starting to bottle it?
Hull - 2 goals
Boro - 2 goals
Burnley - 2 goals
BHA - 8 goals
Sheff Wed - 7 goals
Derby - 1 goal
And we need a striker!
Yes, I know that all 3 of our games have been at home, but considering some have been moaning on about a lack of a striker I think those figures reflect well on us, and cast doubts on some of the other top teams - are they starting to bottle it?
They've got a few easier ones (Rotherham, Blackburn, Bolton), but maybe Fulham have improved a bit (looked good yesterda) and Forest aren't easy now. And they're playing catch up. 'boro have the squad to do it, but Hull have the points and momentum. It's down to us to stop Hull. If we were to beat them (which I'm not expecting) they then travel to Arsenal and Ipswich before playing SW
No, he thought you were talking about the top two, as you were replying to a post about a race for the top two.
Their odds have been too short for a while. Just a couple of days ago, after they'd lost their manager, we were 3/1 for promotion and they were 3/2 (6/4). They're now 9/4, so still shorter than us, which is ridiculous given that we're 5 points ahead, we've played a game less, they haven't won in 8 and they've just sacked their manager.
Hull have scored 3.
But just because our midfield are working hard to get in scoring positions doesn't mean we don't want our strikers to contribute too. Comparing the goals we've scored against others over a couple of games isn't giving you a balanced view of our needs. There are games where we've dropped points because we haven't had a potent striker.
nwgull
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If you find the odds ridiculous, then it usually means that there's easy money to be made: lay Derby big style.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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They've got a few easier ones (Rotherham, Blackburn, Bolton), but maybe Fulham have improved a bit (looked good yesterda) and Forest aren't easy now. And they're playing catch up. 'boro have the squad to do it, but Hull have the points and momentum. It's down to us to stop Hull. If we were to beat them (which I'm not expecting) they then travel to Arsenal and Ipswich before playing SW
No, he thought you were talking about the top two, as you were replying to a post about a race for the top two.
Their odds have been too short for a while. Just a couple of days ago, after they'd lost their manager, we were 3/1 for promotion and they were 3/2 (6/4). They're now 9/4, so still shorter than us, which is ridiculous given that we're 5 points ahead, we've played a game less, they haven't won in 8 and they've just sacked their manager.
Hull have scored 3.
But just because our midfield are working hard to get in scoring positions doesn't mean we don't want our strikers to contribute too. Comparing the goals we've scored against others over a couple of games isn't giving you a balanced view of our needs. There are games where we've dropped points because we haven't had a potent striker.
I know that silly - I was quoting him back to take the piss. By his logic, you can't come 6th & get promoted
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Quite. The chairman near-enough ORDERED the (ex-) manager not to get promoted.
Yep, I think that's a good bet. I don't gamble on sport much though.
They've got a few easier ones (Rotherham, Blackburn, Bolton), but maybe Fulham have improved a bit (looked good yesterda) and Forest aren't easy now. And they're playing catch up. 'boro have the squad to do it, but Hull have the points and momentum. It's down to us to stop Hull. If we were to beat them (which I'm not expecting) they then travel to Arsenal and Ipswich before playing SW
It's a fascinating time of season but also nerve wracking. There are endless permutations but it's beginning to look as if it's sorting itself out. I'm not sure I can see Brum and Ipswich sustaining the challenge and it may well be that the top 6 now are the top 6 at seasons end, although in what order is anyone's guess.
As much as Derby have come off the rails surely they have the players to be able to regroup and 'hang on'?
Given we have to play all the other top 5 that can either be a positive (we can take points off them) or a negative (they'll be harder than against mid-lower table). But I think the results against those 5 may well determine our season. Overhauling 2 of Hull, Burnley and Boro will be a huge achievement, and right now I would take a guaranteed play off spot and take our chances. I might reconsider that statement Tuesday at 22.00!
We've only got to overhaul the top two, we're level with Burnley with a game in hand.
No! No way take the playoffs now. We should get the playoffs anyway, which gives a 1 in 4 chance of promotion, but why the hell give up on an automatic place? Madness (and I mean in your hypothetical example of taking a guaranteed play off spot, not our players actually giving up, which obviously you weren't suggesting). We can't be much worse than 1 in 4 for an auto place, so that's almost two 1 in 4 chances.
warmleyseagull
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I know that silly - I was quoting him back to take the piss. By his logic, you can't come 6th & get promoted
Or more correclty, by my logic you can get 87 and not get auto. OP is clearly talking about top two, not PO. Your logic was to look no lower than Forest for a PO spot. What about Preston - same points as Forest and 16 points from last 8 games?
Sheebo
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7 pages in, you're allowed to discuss other things you know - I clearly said promotion race. And in my opinion Preston aren't as strong as Forest - that ok?
CaptainDaveUK
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Still looking like a four horse race after two good wins, albeit not the same four horses! Great win tonight for the Albion, worst defeat in 2 years for Champins of Europe.
warmleyseagull
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Win 8 from 12 and we will do it without needing POs.This week just could be the turning point. Four games involving top 3 before we play Preston..
Blue Valkyrie
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29 more points and we'll be top 2.
warmleyseagull
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Last two days have made this look a more even 4 horse race. Wonder what odds are that all four are in the mix on final day.
Six clubs in for the autos, and three clubs waiting for someone to slip.
If we beat Wednesday, it could be down to five.
Unless Hull and Boro lose when not expected to it is those two. If they slip once, Burnley might catch them. If they slip twice we might catch them. But Boro might need to bottle it a second time in the final game of the 46.
Points on board count for a lot. Hull have got the easiest fixtures.
As well as playing each other a few times, the top four teams all have to visit Birmingham. I think they are a particulalry awkward team to play as Derby found out on thier own ground.
I am looking for the top 3 to slip up to give us a sporting chance.
If we beat Wednesday, it could be down to five.
Unless Hull and Boro lose when not expected to it is those two. If they slip once, Burnley might catch them. If they slip twice we might catch them. But Boro might need to bottle it a second time in the final game of the 46.
Points on board count for a lot. Hull have got the easiest fixtures.
As well as playing each other a few times, the top four teams all have to visit Birmingham. I think they are a particulalry awkward team to play as Derby found out on thier own ground.
I am looking for the top 3 to slip up to give us a sporting chance.
darkwolf666
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Hull have got to play Birminghan, Middlesborough and Derby away from home - plenty of opportunity for them to drop points there!
Did you expect 'Boro to lose to Blackburn last night then?
Everyone has to play Brum away and there are still several 6 pointers to come.
I thought Boro would have a tough time last night (had it as a draw) but reckon they have 4 wins coming up now.
I agree with [MENTION=153]perseus[/MENTION], we need those above us to slip once, maybe twice and at the same time we need to keep winning the games "we're supposed to"