KZNSeagull
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Finally saw it today. Fabulous. Best film of the lot by miles and thank goodness that the principal character in this one can actually act. Want to see the next one now.
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Star Wars: The Force Awakens - with Spoilers - discussion thread
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Bladders
Twats everywhere
Rebel Scum
Stumbled across this on Youtube, a little short fan film, its not bad.
A Rebellion pilot is hounded by certain death from the merciless Empire or a frozen grave, after being abandoned during the retreat of the Rebel Alliance from Hoth.
Stumbled across this on Youtube, a little short fan film, its not bad.
A Rebellion pilot is hounded by certain death from the merciless Empire or a frozen grave, after being abandoned during the retreat of the Rebel Alliance from Hoth.
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
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There's a fascinating interview here (1 hour long) with the people who did the visual effects on the film.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/this-one-hour-conversation-about-the-vfx-in-star-wars-1753538070
http://io9.gizmodo.com/this-one-hour-conversation-about-the-vfx-in-star-wars-1753538070
Not sure if these have been posted (skimmed over the thread). A clever stick has re-invented the trailers to the original films in the style of one the new trailers. He did 'Empire' first, but here are all 3.
https://youtu.be/nywPf1p-BBY
https://youtu.be/xESiohGGP7g
https://youtu.be/MYD_xxY5wEI
https://youtu.be/nywPf1p-BBY
https://youtu.be/xESiohGGP7g
https://youtu.be/MYD_xxY5wEI
JCL666
absurdism
- Sep 23, 2011
- 2,190
They are brilliant. Especially the New Hope, although the last bit of ROJ with Luke and hist lightsabre is pretty cool.
I felt a bit sad seeing Han Solo in them. Almost like looking at pics/vids of people you know who have died. Bizarre.
Bladders
Twats everywhere
Brilliant!
Think Empire one was my favourite. ''The force is with you young Skywalker...................but you are not a Jedi yet''
...got a bit emotional watching that bit.
I sometimes wonder if Star Wars would have become what it has and have a timeless feel with out John Williams score. Such a magnificent soundtrack on all the Star Wars films.
Agreed - interestingly (potentially) the soundtrack in those trailers (and from the 2nd force awakens trailer) is not by John Williams, but is a re-arranged / reproduced version
http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-trailer-music/
http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-trailer-music/
Regrding the 'it was just Episode IV all over again' argument:
http://io9.gizmodo.com/harrison-fords-on-set-injury-rescued-the-force-awakens-1771899668
http://io9.gizmodo.com/harrison-fords-on-set-injury-rescued-the-force-awakens-1771899668
“The weird thing about that movie is that it had been so long since the last one. Obviously the prequels had existed in between and we wanted to, sort of, reclaim the story,” Abrams said. “So we very consciously—and I know it is derided for this—we very consciously tried to borrow familiar beats, so the rest of the movie could hang on something that we knew was Star Wars.”
Basically, they felt they wanted to give audiences a reminder of what made Star Wars great. Something simple and familiar. And then, Episodes VIII and IX could have the freedom to get weird.
Basically, they felt they wanted to give audiences a reminder of what made Star Wars great. Something simple and familiar. And then, Episodes VIII and IX could have the freedom to get weird.
JJ has got absolute dog's abuse for his work on the film which is mightily sad given how much time and effort he and countless others put into delivering a good Star Wars picture (which for my money is the 3rd best of all seven).
The worst offenders are those who slated the prequels previously and are now trying to retrospectively praise them for 'trying to do something original' and the 'unheralded miniature work that got lost in all the green screen'.
Not saying these aren't valid lines of praise for I, II and III but it's a poor show when someone has to resort to praising some truly dreadful films to justify their blinkered view of a film that may not be the most original ever made, but was made with love, respect and integrity as to what made Star Wars great in the first place.
A report about someoen on Reddit claiming to have read the episode VIII script and having a bunch of answers (only casting spoilers in the report, but includes a link to the reddit page):
http://www.theguardian.com/film/201...reveals-star-wars-episode-viii-plot-rey-force
http://www.theguardian.com/film/201...reveals-star-wars-episode-viii-plot-rey-force
Albumen
Don't wait for me!
This is the 2nd post I've read in this thread, and reading that I don't think I'll bother going any deeper into it!
My tuppenth: Twas OK, I'm not desperate to see the next one but I'll go watch it as my girlfriend (hadn't seen one since the 80's) quite liked it.
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She could do better.
Albumen
Don't wait for me!
Oye, what are you saying!?
Don't get me wrong, I'm far more willing to praise Lucas for his vision and commitment to doing what he thought was right but there's a hypocritical contrarian element of the Star Wars fan base that really get on my grill when it comes to discussing the movie.
Nixonator
Well-known member
The prequels had diabolical casting, acting and script, but they were visually stunning. They further captured my imagination in the Star Wars fictional world and the story of anakin's demise was at least semi-interesting.
This latest film was well acted for the most part, less script cringe and the casting was ok. Visually though, disappointing and the story a cut and paste job. All that was left was to insert death of big character and fan favourite much like series do nowadays to make it more 'real' or something (in a franchise with laser swords, bipedal farm animals and telekinesis).
Personally I thought it was a desecration of the originals and i'm not even a SW fanatic.
Bladders
Twats everywhere
What? Have you watched them recently?
Looks like PS2 graphics. They've dated badly with the naff CGI used.
JCL666
absurdism
- Sep 23, 2011
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I watched the dvd yesterday. (Which is the 3rd time I've watched the film)
The best thing about it is that it doesn't bother with all the midichlorians and stuff like that which really hampered the prequels, so it's just fun.
But after repeated viewing it's no New Hope or Empire Strikes Back. The continuity is a bit crap.
One thing that annoyed me. When the x wings attack the first order on Takodana, Poe Dameron single handedly destroys so many Tie fighters it's ridiculous. It was quite cool in the original trilogy that the rebels (specifically Luke who was meant to be an amazing pilot or even Han Solo for that matter), didn't just destroy everything with one shot (Except for the Death Star).
The best thing about it is that it doesn't bother with all the midichlorians and stuff like that which really hampered the prequels, so it's just fun.
But after repeated viewing it's no New Hope or Empire Strikes Back. The continuity is a bit crap.
One thing that annoyed me. When the x wings attack the first order on Takodana, Poe Dameron single handedly destroys so many Tie fighters it's ridiculous. It was quite cool in the original trilogy that the rebels (specifically Luke who was meant to be an amazing pilot or even Han Solo for that matter), didn't just destroy everything with one shot (Except for the Death Star).
StonehamPark
#Brighton-Nil
Agreed.
The prequels CGI is naff.
They briefly touch on this on the must-watch 'Secrets of The Force Awakens' bonus footage from the Blu-Ray.
It's essentially a 1+ hour long 'behind the scenes' and 'making of' documentary.