Thunder Bolt
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But the same applies to Tarkowski as Dunk. Mawson, of course, has the advantage of playing abroad ...
Mawson I can understand because he played for the U21s. Southgate is just playing safe.
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Mawson I can understand because he played for the U21s. Southgate is just playing safe.
seagulls4ever
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This is because Arsenal forced us back, largely in part due to Wilshire.
Thunder Bolt
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All England player wages go to a charity.
BensGrandad
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That was not down to Stephens it was more down to his own forwards not moving into position for him to give them the ball.
Rubbish
Kalimantan Gull
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Southgate believes its better to pick players with experience of playing against sides from different countries, in the biggest club competitions in Europe and in as part of the best teams in the country. He thinks these players are more able to cope with international football. At least its a strategy, I suppose, and I guess it makes sense in theory, but just ends up with bit part players picked for England when they are with the big-6, and dropped when they leave the big teams. See: Richardson, Kieron
Brighton Mod
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'Everybody seems to now the score, we've heard it all before', in a song sort of way. Give the youngsters a run out, let them know what its all about. Lets talk about everything except winning, it'll make it easy when we exit the competition early. It'll be alright when Kane comes back, if he comes back, if he isn't injured again etc, etc. Southgate, another establishment choice, as for the youngsters, their results last summer bare no resemblance to the England squad and havn't for years.
Brighton Mod
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They play against foreign opposition every week.
Thunder Bolt
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Good point.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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Yeah, that doesn't really make a lot of sense in relation to my post.
I'm with you on Southgate though. An F.A man with seemingly F.A ability.
lancyclaret
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Sorry, I did not realise Dunk had such good self-control and a flawless disciplinary record.
Perhaps, LD's past misdemeanours up until this season (6 yellows is not too bad) may count against him.
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Sorry, I did not realise Dunk had such good self-control and a flawless disciplinary record.
He has now.
Of course it has to be.
He is ordinary at best, looks clumsy most of the time and IMO not as good as Dunk, in fact I don’t think Mawson is either. That’s another mystery.
Was surprised Cork was left out though, especially as the hapless Jordan Henderson is selected, and Livermore (I mean FFS!).
Murray realistically, never was an option, as good as he is for us, surely we need to look at younger players.
Regardless of the great work going on at younger levels, the senior team must be the weakest it’s been in my lifetime. Even Don Revie’s and Taylor’s England would beat this team comfortably.
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BensGrandad
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I cannot believe the criticism of Henderson as he is not my favourite England player but at club level he has been excellent. He totally dominated the game at The Amex as he has done in many games as per MOTD. I think that he was a dead cert to be selected for the England squad. I do agree selecting Livermore is a mystery but do agree with Mawson in preference to Dunk.
Which is actually a very good reason, and a bit unusual for England.
Stato
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I get your point. These stats lists actually make a better case for Ben Mee than for Tarkowski or Mawson. Presumably he gets ignored because he is nearly thirty, like Jack Charlton was when Alf Ramsey first called him up, picking him for five years and winning the World Cup along the way.
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I really am completely the opposite re Henderson and thought he was ordinary at The Amex. Countinho and Firmino were the difference.
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BensGrandad
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I though he was spraying the ball about which allowed Firmino and Coutinho to stand out and play. When we attacked he was the release ball. with a long raking pass.
Funny because a group of us were specifically watching him, because of the ‘Stephens for England’ argument, and didn’t see anything like that, just sideways and backwards.
I really would not have him over Stephens or Wilshire.
Perhaps I just have a blind spot where he’s concerned, as I genuinely think he’s poor.
Internationally, I feel the same about Sterling and at the moment Alli. (Alli will get better though).
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Correct answer.