So I take it The Moggester has shot his bolt too soon?
I'm guessing he doesn't have 47 friends - no great surprise.
I'm guessing he doesn't have 47 friends - no great surprise.
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Wrong-Direction
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- Mar 10, 2013
- 13,417
You do all realise this is all just a big distraction? Divide and conquer whilst something bigger is going on.
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
They've been saying they have 48 letters since last Friday but still not reached their target yet.
In truth, nobody wants to be PM until this is over, because she's on a hiding to nothing. That's why they're allowing 'that woman' to do their dirty work.
Publius Ovidius
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Klaas
I've changed this
- Nov 1, 2017
- 2,562
Don't mind his passive aggressiveness when you criticise Brexit, especially with some relevant bloody facts you mad man!
Butch Willykins
Well-known member
You’re talking about the Lizard thing right?
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Pretty dour out and just started to rain...sigh
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Yep. And Putin is doing the dividing and conquering in his hybrid world war.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Alternative-War-J-J-Patrick/dp/199978541X
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,809
Well it's not as if they don't have a history of telling porkies
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The ERG lie so easily. It comes naturally to them. Lies about Brexit and lies about letters.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,809
Still think 'no deal' is a runner?
Butch Willykins
Well-known member
After Moggy making a big scene about him handing his letter in it will be very funny to see it fail.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Someone has speculated that Boris' cronies withdrew their letters when Mogg made a big thing about sending his letter in to make the plum talking tosser look ( even more ) stupid.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I noticed Maria Caulfield has deleted her tweet from last Saturday saying she had put her letter in.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Rees-Mogg's lap dog Steve Baker has badly overestimated this as well. He was saying on Friday 48 were already in.
What a shame.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
We are at the point where we have a little clarity, this deal or a tweaked version of it, No Deal, or Remain.
But I think there is still a lot of fantasy going on about no deal.
No deal is not likely to produce a situation where we give the EU none of the divorce settlement, we will seek to have a number of Bi-lateral agreements, and leaving them with our debt is going to make that a bit tougher on us. My reckoning is we will pay a bit less though.
If we leave with No Deal on the 29th March, there is no certainty of a transition period being afforded us, it might happen to save us from a cliff edge, if the EU can see a benefit for them too, like getting all the divorce settlement, and not facing the cliff edge themselves, even if their cliff is a lot smaller.
We would need to have bi-lateral agreements in many areas, this would involve us adopting EU rules in those areas, no big change for us then, but we would still have the effective situation that a lot of our new laws each year originate in Brussels, only this time, we didn't help create them.
No deal is likely to end up with us looking quite like the Swiss in a few years time in regards to our relationship with the EU. Freedom of movement is likely to return at some point in the future, as a bi lateral agreement, we will of course make the sovereign decision in Parliament to accept it, and not have it forced upon us, but the end result is very similar, only worse because we can't shape the rules.
I can't be certain that Free movement will return, but neither is it possible to say it will never return, as a non member state.
But I think there is still a lot of fantasy going on about no deal.
No deal is not likely to produce a situation where we give the EU none of the divorce settlement, we will seek to have a number of Bi-lateral agreements, and leaving them with our debt is going to make that a bit tougher on us. My reckoning is we will pay a bit less though.
If we leave with No Deal on the 29th March, there is no certainty of a transition period being afforded us, it might happen to save us from a cliff edge, if the EU can see a benefit for them too, like getting all the divorce settlement, and not facing the cliff edge themselves, even if their cliff is a lot smaller.
We would need to have bi-lateral agreements in many areas, this would involve us adopting EU rules in those areas, no big change for us then, but we would still have the effective situation that a lot of our new laws each year originate in Brussels, only this time, we didn't help create them.
No deal is likely to end up with us looking quite like the Swiss in a few years time in regards to our relationship with the EU. Freedom of movement is likely to return at some point in the future, as a bi lateral agreement, we will of course make the sovereign decision in Parliament to accept it, and not have it forced upon us, but the end result is very similar, only worse because we can't shape the rules.
I can't be certain that Free movement will return, but neither is it possible to say it will never return, as a non member state.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
Might have been that comment that stayed the hand of a few, no need to stick your head above the parapet if the job is done. I think it is 26 that have gone public but rumoured to be closer in reality, 6 short is what I read.
melias shoes
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- Oct 14, 2010
- 4,830
'That woman'?
