portlock seagull
Why? Why us?
- Jul 28, 2003
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...you just let a twice banned drug cheat win your main event. How can you take anyone on that board seriously?! Make FIFA look like a force for good!
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Shame on World Athletics Authorities
- Thread starter portlock seagull
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Yup. Shameful.
AmexRuislip
Trainee Spy 🕵️♂️
If you cheat once for whatever reasons, then you (generic) should be banned for LIFE.
No second chances
No second chances
Yep, credit to the crowd for treating him with the contempt he deserves - a shame the IAAF don't have the same balls.
Aside from the Bolt stuff, spare a thought for Christian Coleman. 21 years old, beats Usain Bolt in a World Championship final but denied the title by a man who has been caught on a drugs test not once, but twice.
Aside from the Bolt stuff, spare a thought for Christian Coleman. 21 years old, beats Usain Bolt in a World Championship final but denied the title by a man who has been caught on a drugs test not once, but twice.
AmexRuislip
Trainee Spy 🕵️♂️
A Guardian report on the cheat in 2008!
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2008/jun/07/olympicgames2008.drugsinsport
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2008/jun/07/olympicgames2008.drugsinsport
Hugh Jorgan
Active member
If you cheat once for whatever reasons, then you (generic) should be banned for LIFE.
No second chances
I think there is a case that a first time cheat should potentially be given a second chance but a two time cheat should not be anywhere near the world stage again.
AmexRuislip
Trainee Spy 🕵️♂️
Sorry I have to disagree, if you cheat once, then that's your lot.
NO second chances.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
If we applied that to football cheats, players would be scarce. I don't mean drugs btw, just cheats.
Hugh Jorgan
Active member
I understand why you have that view but people do make one off mistakes and can reform and do good for their sport - David Millar in cycling as an example.
AmexRuislip
Trainee Spy 🕵️♂️
Cheers, I meant it towards drug cheats, not the footballers who continuously get hit by that sniper cheat
Coleman might still be awarded the win. Or Bolt. That's the beauty of athletics - the results can still change years down the line.
AmexRuislip
Trainee Spy 🕵️♂️
Yes I agree people make mistakes and do try to reform.
But when it's at the expense of someone who has trained all their life for one sold event and kept on the straight and narrow, only to be beaten by an enhanced opponent, who knowingly wins by taking a chance.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
It wouldn't be so bad if Gatlin did make a one off mistake.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Indeed. Jo Pavey was awarded a bronze medal today for a race 4 years ago.
Blimey. I'm not the fastest runner, but I could beat that.
hart's shirt
Well-known member
Gatlin still owes me a refund for the 2004 Olympics Men's 100m Final ticket.
Not holding my breath though.
Not holding my breath though.
Hugh Jorgan
Active member
I completely agree, as I said earlier a two time cheat should be nowhere near a world event. I was responding to the suggestion that a first time cheat should never compete again.
Yoda
English & European
I posted this in the main World Champs thread but probably deserves to be here too:
Yes, Gatlin has been a cheat, but can we please stop referring to him as a two time cheat?
The only thing he failed to do first time around (as a naive young nineteen year old) was check his medication. If he had, he would've found out he shouldn't have been taking it during competitions.
The following was a statement from the IAAF regarding this matter:
"The IAAF Council has accepted a request for early reinstatement on behalf of the US sprinter Justin Gatlin (suspended 2 years from 17.06.2001).
It was agreed that Gatlin had a genuine medical explanation for his positive test: prescription medicine for the condition "Attention Deficit Disorder" (ADD) which was first diagnosed when
Gatlin was 9 years-old, had never challenged his suspension, and had not competed in USATF or IAAF events since learning of his test result on 12 July 2001."
Due to this first instance, when he was actually caught cheating (the second time) he was originally given an EIGHT year ban, reduced to FOUR on appeal because of the circumstances surrounding his first offence. That in itself was a harsher sentence than a lot of doppers get for their first offence.
Yes, Gatlin has been a cheat, but can we please stop referring to him as a two time cheat?
The only thing he failed to do first time around (as a naive young nineteen year old) was check his medication. If he had, he would've found out he shouldn't have been taking it during competitions.
The following was a statement from the IAAF regarding this matter:
"The IAAF Council has accepted a request for early reinstatement on behalf of the US sprinter Justin Gatlin (suspended 2 years from 17.06.2001).
It was agreed that Gatlin had a genuine medical explanation for his positive test: prescription medicine for the condition "Attention Deficit Disorder" (ADD) which was first diagnosed when
Gatlin was 9 years-old, had never challenged his suspension, and had not competed in USATF or IAAF events since learning of his test result on 12 July 2001."
Due to this first instance, when he was actually caught cheating (the second time) he was originally given an EIGHT year ban, reduced to FOUR on appeal because of the circumstances surrounding his first offence. That in itself was a harsher sentence than a lot of doppers get for their first offence.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The first time might have been due to naivety, but then, knowing how the system works, to be stupid enough to cheat, shows what his character mist be like.
And he cheated