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Probably done a whole lot more for Brighton and Hove than you have, does that count?
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Probably done a whole lot more for Brighton and Hove than you have, does that count?
Steve Foster
Well-known member
In my book a prospective councillor should be living within or close proximity to their constituents. Don't believe this applies to Mr Perry
studio150
Well-known member
Expect the cycle lanes may be busy for the first time as the ouested greens cycle off into the sunset
ta. Just not sure how good he would be moving from corporate to council. He did a great job in getting us the stadium but had TB's bottomless pit of cash behind him - apparently he got the club into some expensive contracts.
symyjym
Banned
I think it is more complicated than that because the Tories are in government. Labour would be better teaming up with the Tories than the Greens.
No, what a strange response
Machiavelli
Well-known member
The options appear to be:
-- Labour minority council
-- Labour/Tory 'grand' coalition
-- Labour/Green coalition
I favour the last of these, for the sake of Labour, the Greens and the city.
Machiavelli
Well-known member
Given she increased her majority, not so sure we can characterise the council as an electoral liability (although it probably reduced it somewhat). I do agree that the rubbish and recycling rates leave a lot to be desired, as does the party's infighting -- they need to sort out their internal organisation.
I doubt option three will happen given Labours ( correct ) resistance to the Valley Gardens development and the stitch up over the i360. Also the Greens have been very vocal about Labour supporting an decrease in the council tax allowance. I suspect option one is most likely ( but then I called the GE completely wrong so don't listen to me ! ).
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 27,905
Ah but Labour won't want to be seen to be associated with the spending cuts ahead,they'd rather sit back and watch the Tories and the Greens bicker, and argue and pick up the votes from both sets of disillusioned voters next time round.
I just feel amazed for those on here who feel that the Tories would be Brighton's salvation, things were set to get far worse whoever gets in and that's not the Greens fault.
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
The Green canvassers I had on my doorstep several times recently were all keen to put clear daylight between her and the council - as Ms Lucas has done numerous times in the press. This article is but one such example:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...above-green-partys-brighton-woes-9880649.html
symyjym
Banned
A Labour minority council would work for them if Labour were in Government, but under a Tory Government I am not sure. A Tory Labour council would represent the city better overall.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
The convention (supported by all three parties represented on the City Council) has been to allow the largest party to form the administration (Leader of the Council and Lead Members for all service areas). I can't see that changing, unless there is a major, major crisis that requires a formal coalition.
Lush
Mods' Pet
The sad fact is that, whoever is in power, they have some every unpopular decisions to make about how to spend a dwindling amount of cash on a growing population demanding better services in Brighton and Hove.
If you want to point the finger at 'wasted Green cash' on crazy road schemes, don't forget that the money the councils raises from parking/speeding fines HAS to be spent on the roads. It can't be spent on nursery schools/refuse collection etc.
If you want to point the finger at 'wasted Green cash' on crazy road schemes, don't forget that the money the councils raises from parking/speeding fines HAS to be spent on the roads. It can't be spent on nursery schools/refuse collection etc.
symyjym
Banned
My vote is based on who has been helpful to me and have given me their time.
The Greens might side with the Tories if they feel that they are the better of two evils. It was the Tories and Greens that worked for the i360 whilst Labours objections were loud and clear.
- Apr 5, 2014
- 23,660
It will be a Labour minority administration. The big issue will be budget setting.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
And a lot of the money spent on transport schemes in Brighton and Hove came in the form of direct grants from the coalition government. Thank transport ministers like Norman Baker and Susan Kramer for quite a lot of it.
Machiavelli
Well-known member
You didn't get the GE is badly wrong as I did. I had my first spread bet on it. Will not be doing that again.
My point is that I think the Labour party needs to do some serious soul-searching and, amongst other things, embrace PR which also entails being less tribal, and working with the Greens. My view on the Green council was different to yours, but we might agree that they need to start acting like a party in power (rather than an opposition), and this too involves amending their organisation. A period as a minority partner might give them an opportunity to start learning, and regaining credibility on this front. Because they were hugely assisted in the local elections this time round in that it fell on the same day as the GE, which won't happen next time.
Machiavelli
Well-known member
Fair play. I don't need to read that, as it was obvious that Lucas was trying to distinguish herself from the council.
Thing is, now the Greens have finished tarting up the bits of town that their voters live in, and the 20mph signs everyone ignores have dried. perhaps the reduced cash could be spent on Children's Centres in the likes of Whitehawk, rather than middle class parks and designer roundabouts.