Your a bit late to be pretending to be interested in civilised discussion. I would stick to the arrogant sneering you do so well.
A passenger jet hit one tower, then another jet hit the other twin tower. They were on fire, lots of people died, the towers collapsed, a lot more people died. Other buildings were also damaged and WTC 7 collapsed due to fire. I'm completely certain on all those points.
I'm less certain about this, but I expect terrorists were mostly to blame, and the agenda was to cause damage and loss of life to America/Americans.
Nah, he doesn't count, he's in on it. There were 8 million people living in NYC in 2001, they're all in on it too. Anyone who claims to have seen it is in on it. The countless people that videoed the planes crashing into the towers are also in on it, and have had their videos edited.
Fair enough.
The idea that planes were hijacked and flown into buildings isn't that crazy.
I don't find it hard, I simply don't trust them. I don't base my thoughts on 9/11 on what the US say happened.
You realise that that applies to all suicide bombers though, right? Terrorists blow themselves up, but none of them are bringing about peace, they're fighting a war.
They wouldn't receive any retaliation, they'd be dead and be in paradise for eternity, with a boat load of virgins.
I don't think anyone claims that to be the case. Those that go roughly with the official version would say that it was planned by Al Qaeda, and would have taken significant planning, rather than just the people on the planes.
Agreed.
I can certainly see the logic in this. When (not if) the governments lie about something, and some people have suspicions about the official line of events, I can see the benefit of creating more conspiracy theories to confuse people and better hide the lie. However there are also other good reason for conspiracy theories - some daft people think all governments are always out to get them and always lying. They're not always lying. And also a good number of people make a lot of money from making up conspiracy theories.
Just because I can imagine that a government would make up a bullshit theory to hide the truth, that's not enough reason for me to think they're always doing it, so it's not enough reason alone for me to think they've done it on this occasion. I'll treat each case on merit. If one of the CTs can put forward a credible theory, I will go with it on face value - I won't assume it's crap just because of all the other crap theories that are out there. So even if a government did create some of the theories, it wouldn't turn me away from the truth.
I disagree. With each conspiracy theorist here I've asked what they do and don't believe, and looked at their point of view and evidence. I've thought about what they've posted, and as it happens I've disagreed. I've then posted reasons as to why their theory is wrong. None of them have been able to argue their case properly, so when they refuse to accept things that are obviously true, then I label them with the other CTs, but not before then.
I've told you what I think happened, yet I happily share my home with Muslims. A group of fundamentalists caused the death of about 3,000 people in NYC. I believe that the UK and US governments have caused far more deaths than that around the world, but that doesn't suddenly make me hate all westerners either.
Which bit is too wrong? I assume that you believe a lot of people died, so someone / group caused it.
Well I told you the bits I am certain of (jets destroying the towers) and I told you I wasn't so certain about what was behind it.
