Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I posted that because Clamp is always fishing.
When you find a political party that isn't corrupt, please let me know.
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Theresa May ruled to have broken the law.
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I posted that because Clamp is always fishing.
When you find a political party that isn't corrupt, please let me know.
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Mrs May refused to acknowledge their refugee status as having any validity in the UK as she didn't believe this extended to the SBA. She refused to have their case for refugee status heard pertaining to the UK.
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You're a funny one. Everytime anyone says something you don't like you accuse them of fishing or trolling. It's not very helpful.
It would be a bigger disaster if Corbyn was doing the leading. Not entirely confident in May, but Corbyn and McDonnell and Abbott.....more like the Scream Team.
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I like Corbyn. I like his politics and I like his ideals. Barely any of which would work in the world we live in. Unfortunately. Although I do believe he'd be a far better negotiator than May. Because he listens.
Gritt23
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Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
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Quite right. He wasn't member of the IRA but was very much a fellow traveller who supported a United Ireland on Sinn Fein/IRA terms. Suggest Clamp/Nibble reads this esp. the words of Lord Bew who is just about the most authoritative figure on Northern Ireland and the Troubles as you can get.
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That sounds like a recipe for SUCCESS. Where do I sign?
It really doesn't. He's a great man but his ideals just won't hold water in the current global climate. Which is a huge shame because he wants what would make the UK a far nicer place to live and work.
Peter Grummit
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Whether you like Corbyn or not, he is a politician of principles. The Saudi point for me is that his Government would not sell arms to them. This may lead to job losses in the UK, but that is a policy choice for voters to make.
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Buzzer
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Hmm...principled enough to take money (and lots of it) from Iran TV even after it was censured in the UK for being the official mouthpiece of the homophobic, holocaust-denying Iranian junta.
All politicians lie, all politicians have very flexible morals. Corbyn is no different. He's just got better PR.
Sorry, mate, but that is surely a RIDICULOUS claim.
JC probably has the WORST PR of just about any leading politician of recent times?
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
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Really? Then why do I see constantly all those Memes about Corbyn being on the right side of history, about his supposed humanity and how much he has always cared?
Look at this thread - people gushing over a man who quite literally honoured IRA terrorists. How the f*ck does that happen in a normal world*?
*Cognitive dissonance and very good PR is the answer.
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I do agree with that. Not a publication of integrity. I don't reference it when arguing in favour of the left.
Stupidity.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Don't exaggerate, it's not helpful.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
You appear to be a pompous,vile,abusive woman who fails to see how moronic her post is.May being Home Secretary is just as much yesterday's news,but you are obviously too slow/low/dim witted to notice
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Most Home Secretaries like to justify their actions by hiding behind their officials, the civil servants. And then defending those officials. When decisions turn out to be wrong, the politicians genuinely believe that they personally did no wrong.
This isn't how it should be. At a local level, I remember a (Tory) leader of East Sussex County Council discovering that ESCC had legal responsibility for hundreds of looked-after children. For the first time ever, she asked to see every single one of the files that set out the circumstances that had put these children into the care of the Council. The Education Officers were appalled, but she insisted, on the grounds that "the Council" meant the councillors. What happened next was much closer scrutiny of the rights and wrongs of all the decisions that affected the lives of the young people.
That is what taking responsibility is all about. Most politicians are happy to pretend that they act responsibly, but few seek out the details. That criticism applies to politicians of all parties.
Incidentally, the councillor in question was Daphne Bagshawe, the mother of ex-Tory MP, Louise Mensch, who is currently giving Donald Trump hell over his failures to act within the law.
studio150
Well-known member
How would it be a bigger disaster you wanted out of the EU, we are coming out of the EU. A paid gorilla could achieve that now that Article 50 has been triggered,
Seems like she did the right thing there and the EOs lost their easy lives.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
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Also see Cognitive distortions. Actually I agree with hans kraay fan club his PR is pretty crap but it still works on some.
It's also quite disturbing seeing normally sensible decent people deluding themselves that voting Labour isn't endorsing Corbyn and strengthening his position.
'We're just trying to limit the Tory majority' ...
